EX-INT BASE STAFF INTERROGATORY

Interviews

Monday, 2nd May, 2005 07:03:06pm

Name or Alias: Luna Moth
Training and/or processing level: N/A
Locations before INT Base: N/A
Time period at INT Base: N/A

NEWS:

1. What in your opinion are the most interesting or biggest projects and strategies being worked on at the Base that are NOT known outside the Base during any time period?

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2. Is there any news about things that are common knowledge at the Base, but completely unknown outside, in your opinion?

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GATHERINGS:

1. Are the weekly all base briefings by COB still held Saturday nights around 9pm, in MCI? Do any noteworthy briefings stand out in your mind?

They were when I left. Many of them just overarching 'scoldings' and class warfare among the different stratas at the base. The seating arrangement alone reinforced this, and always making Gold look like a bunch of f*ckups. No wonder these people were so low-havingness and started to dramatize it themselves. They were really doing so much more work to 'produce' for Scn, how could they be treated so poorly? I always liked the 'blue-collar' atmosphere (not meant to be insulting) of the Gold staff, because they weren't stuck on their status and generally were more approachable and sincere people. There were a lot of people like that in all the echelons, but never was it more obvious to me, the disparity between who these people are really, what they were contributing, and how they were being treated and made to feel about themselves.

2. Are Sea Org ceremonies still held at the Base, outdoors? Are there any troubles holding events outdoors any longer, and why is that?

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3. Are any musters held outdoors? Do RTC, CMO INT, Exec Strata, and Gold still hold any of their staff musters outdoors?

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4. Is study still in the morning?

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GROUNDS:

1. How is the Berthing Building cycle coming along?

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2. How does the RTC Building look? Did you get to work on it during Renos, or was it done by Gold construction and outside contractors only? Can you describe its location, using terms that someone previously at the base would understand (meaning describe it in relation to where BonnyView is/was; is it towards the mountains, up from the upper villas, for example)?

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3. How does the CMO INT building look? Where is the CMO INT Building now? Is it in the region where the old RTRC Building was? Are Exec Strata's offices in the CMO INT Building?

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4. What is going on with the buildings over on the west end of the property: OGH, M&M House, the Horwich House, Carmen and Gary Weise's house, the swamp area, the trailers that used to hold deckees, the old "chicken coop" that got turned into the Bavarian style course room? Any data on those buildings?

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5. Do people still live offbase at the several different berthing apartment complexes, and are people divided up somewhat by orgs, meaning RTC staff living off base at the same complex, and CMOI and Exec Strata at another, and everyone else at another?

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6. What are the latest renovations on the base?

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EXECS and PERSONNEL:

1. In your opinion, do you think David Miscavige is going to be the top exec until he dies? Is there anyone else there who even vaguely competes with him in status, effectiveness, or competence?

I think GW is a good candidate. (Greg Wilhere) he's the only one that seems to be ontop of things as much, doesn't sabotage himself and is charismatic, which is almost as necessary as competence in that position. Everyone wants their God to look good and be smoooooth. Even if when he turns around he turns out to be an angry and vengeful God. Greg doesn't strike me as being that kind of person. He's a total hedonist too, which means that he fits in perfectly with the RTC Execs.

2. Have you ever seen David Miscavige hit anyone physically (including spitting, pushing, grabbing them by their shirts, throwing in the pool, screaming right in their face, or similar)? Include the time and place on the base, and other people present. Has this practice lessened, and has he mellowed out in recent years?

Heard about it from time to time, but never saw it. He and COB Asst (Shelly) were always very kind and never intimidating to me. I've heard the more recent stories though, and I can see it happening, no problem. Is he losing it or what?

3. At the time you left INT Base, had physical and screaming fits in general lessened? When was the last time you saw red-faced screaming and desk pounding irrational execs, etc.?

Not at all. It was like a sign that you had arrived when you had your first good screaming fit on someone. Especially with the CMO guys. Which must have been demeaning for the people in Exec Strata and Gold, etc. who had been around when LRH was around, been through everything, and survived, to have some new CMO kid who has his nuts all up in a twist because someone told him he had authority, and the kid just lays open on one of these old-timers because of this false sense of self-worth. That's just disgusting. I never blew open on someone unless they were being a total @$$hole to me and trying to force theirr authority on me and intimidate me. That happened from time to time and then I'd give it right back to them. I just couldn't bring myself to be demeaning to another human who was struggling just as hard as I was to tread water.

4. Have you ever seen other execs in RTC, CMO INT, Gold, or other INT units, physically beat up on their staff in any way? When and who else was present?

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5. How are the following people doing: COB Asst (Shelly Miscavige), Greg Wilhere, Marty Rathbun, Ray Mitoff, Wendell Reynolds, ED INT (Guillaume Lesevre), Lyman Spurlock, Gary Weise?

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6. How is Mark Ingber doing? How did he do after being RPFed in 2000?

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7. How is Norman Starkey doing? Is he working with Danny Sherman on the LRH Bio?

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8. How are any other of the top RTC, CMOI, Exec Strata guys doing?

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9. How is Gold doing? What upper org staff have been busted down from the upper orgs to Gold? Who is CO Gold?

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10. Why did the Hodens (Ken and Lisa), the Epsteins (Jono and Leslie), and the Bennets (Jason and Susie) all get RPFed and sent down to the PAC RPF?

It's amazing to me that these three particular couples, who have been through all the sh*t, taken 'one' (or many) for the team (particularly Jono) and stuck with it, finally end up in the RPF? What the hell is going on up there? Where the hell does DM think he's going to be without Jono to solve his problems?

11. Are there any personnel changes that you know about in RTC, CMO INT, Exec Strata or Gold or CMO Gold or HU, or the other units, INT Finance Office, Snr C/S INT Office, INT Landlord Office, RTRC, TU, R Comps, PDU, that are notable?

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12. Did you hear or observe what happened really, with Pat Broeker? Did he blow? Do you recall an issue written on him, saying what he did? Did DM do a base briefing on him, after he left? Any data on him?

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13. Is the food still excellent, and deserts incredible, and is Pinucio Tisi still in the bakery making yummy things to eat?

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FLAPS:

1. What were the biggest flaps that you observed in your years at the Base?

I'm working on this one separately.

2. Do you have any direct knowledge on the Stacy Moxon Meyer tragedy, her electrocution in the high voltage vault? Did she go into the vault as part of her job? Do you know the specific reason she went into the vault? If not, have you heard any rumors?

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3. After dark on May 17, 2000, a young woman named Ashlee Shaner was killed in an accident with a frontloader tractor being used by TaseCo, a subcontractor who was doing paving work inside the Base. The traffic collision report states that Golden Era staff had asked the construction workers to work late. Were you aware of this accident? Do you recall the work being done? Who would have been responsible for asking the workers to stay late? There were roadside memorials built for Ashlee Shaner, which were later destroyed. Do you have any knowledge of the memorials and why they were destroyed, or by whom?

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4. Were you aware of any picketers outside of the Base during your time there? Were you told anything about the picketers, who they were, why they were there, etc.? Were you sent to other areas to keep you from seeing or interacting with them? Were you curious about the picketers, or affected by their presence in any way?

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5. Is there anything over the years that you were at the Base, politics wise, that stands out? Expound upon the tension between any persons at the Base, grievances that certain staff had towards other staff, or any longstanding "grudges" held between people that stand out in your mind.

Working on this one...

6. Was there anyone you thought was "getting away with something"? Were there ongoing injustices, lack of funding, lack of strategic support for areas that you know should have been getting handled, but weren't, or musical chairing of personnel and resources that doomed ongoing projects? Were any people you liked and thought highly of treated in an unjust way?

Working on this one...

7. Are there any personnel flaps, or Base flaps that stand out, in the years that you were at the base? Do any other dumb or funny flaps come to mind during the years you were there? Did anyone do any ridiculously stupid things that stand out in your years at the base?

Working on this one...

FADS and TRENDS:

1. Are there any clothing fads or trends that COB or COB Asst or others started that spread around the base, like the Aveda shampoo and products that were a hit for a while?

I remember when 'perfumed' products were a complete and absolute no-no. Even Aveda, which I had found worked best for me. Suddenly they are okay?

2. Is there currently exercise time? When were there times when exercise was in for most on the Base? Is the par course still used? Is almost everyone off smoking cigarettes now?

A lot of people were trying to quit smoking while I was there, by doing 'The Cleanse' (remember that disgusting fad? talking about the length of your turds at lunchtime and what was in them?) and also by doing wheatgrass. Some successfully stopped for awhile, but then started again. With the stress that we were under, you'd either have to smoke, or start a crack habit to keep up!

3. Any exciting all Base outings?

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4. Is the running program still going? Is there still a negative tint to persons doing it, either the person's themselves didn't think they needed it, or it has been ordered to be done on people who basically have screwed up?

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5. Is Superpower being delivered to any staff yet?

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6. What are the study orders most people are currently working on, and what have been the study order trends over the years you were there (like the STCC evolution, FPRD, etc.)

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7. Is there still an ongoing program for the Base Staff Statuses, and the whole Base Executive Staff Statuses?

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8. How is the Team Share system going? Any gripes on it? Has it gone in and out, and to what degree?

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9. Are Exec Strata Execs and CMO INT execs getting through the OEC and FEBC if they are not already on it?

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10. How big is the Eval Corps and are evals still being all-handsed by other Exec Strata Execs and WDC Members?

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11. Are there any fads and trends that COB puts a halt to, with his characteristic methods (labels, photos, issues, or at the weekly staff briefings)?

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12. Is there any other INT Base exec being a serious opinion leader at the Base, or is it still mainly just COB?

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13. Are there any little groups of execs going around doing bonehead things, trying to deal with something before it lands on COB's plate, but making a botch of it?

It'll always be done. It's called 'camoflauging a hole' and it's done by everyone, just to survive so that they don't incur the wrath of Dept. 21. I'm still working on this one...

DATA POINTS:

1. Do you have any data on any big busts at INT Base?

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2. Do you have any data on any big RPF assignments?

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3. Is the INT RPF still going on out at Happy Valley (Castille Canyon Ranch, or the "ranch")? Do you have any data on the size of the INT RPF?

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SUMMARY:

1. What did you like most about your years at INT Base?

There were a lot of very sincere and well-meaning people who got wrapped up in that mess, and I am trying to find out which ones made it out and are doing well again. Also, I hate to see old stable couples be broken up to keep 'on purpose.' Bitty and Ronnie? Michelle and Marc? Most religions like to brag that they keep marriages together. What would the lower level Scn's think of the aberrated 2D situations at the Int Base?

2. How long were you at INT Base?

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3. Were you ever RPFed? If so, why, and please describe your experience.

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4. Why did you leave INT Base?

I wasn't sleeping (once awake for 9 days and finally collapsed) wasn't eating regular sit-down meals, no CSP most of the time, which was 'DB' to quote Mark Ingber when he was the CO CMO Int, no libs, always in trouble, never enough sleep to study or do processing, or even sec-checking. Always in trouble no matter what miracles I pulled off, etc. etc. etc. How bad did my quality of life have to get before I decided to get out of there? Pretty bad. Thank god I wasn't raised in Scn, else I would have had relatives to leave behind.

5. Are there any questions you think of that should be added to this list so that others who have been at the Base can provide us with additional data that outsiders and ex-staff might be interested in knowing about?

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6. Do you have any additional comments?

An answer to a lot of folks who on these sites ask why some of us stuck around so long, with the horrible conditions and no quality of life: It takes a very strong person with a very strong resolve to 'do the right thing' to make it through day to day up there. They put up with all of it, do the RPF, lower conditions over and over and over, receive half or no pay, be separated from their families, spouses and children, are verbally and even sometimes physically berated and humiliated, because they have a strong resolve to serve others and do the right thing. One day, it just clicks in your head that you aren't doing as much as you could from the outside, that things are corrupt, and it's not just your OWs, and you are not a L1 RSer because you don't want to see this crap continue, and your strong resolve flips like the poles of a magnet, and suddenly, you have the strength to get out. Experiment with two magnets sometime. You'll notice it is harder and harder to push two positive (or negative) sides together, but as soon as you let go of one of the magnets, they flip and everything falls in place.

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