Scientology - Through the Door

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Wednesday, 29th December, 2004 10:59:32am

Name or Alias: Back in Kansas
Training and/or processing level: Clear/Levels
Org or location: East Coast and LA
Time involved in the Church of Scientology: 33 years
Recommended Website - http://slatkinfraud.com
1. How did you first become acquainted with the Church of Scientology?
My parents were both involved in the start-up of a franchise on the east coast. They encouraged me at age 12 to do a course. I dropped out in my teens, but was regged to return by my mother.

2. What initially appealed to you about scientology?
Actually, not much. I felt like a 'closet Scientologist' as I was always embarrassed to be associated with them. Over time, I spent less time with 'wogs'. In the end, I almost exclusively associated with Scns.

3. Were there problems in your life that you thought scientology would address?
No. I was interested in belonging to an ethical group, but as far as a 'ruin', I never really had one.

4. Did you see, experience, or hear about things that didn't seem right while you were in the Church of Scientology? What were they, and what convinced you to set aside your feelings?
It started with listening to the execs scream at their juniors. Seemed strange to me that a group who had the wise pearls of communication would need to yell at anyone. When I asked the ED why he did that, he stammered that Earth was in serious danger.

Later my father was declared in the Mission Holders Nightmare and I was forced to disconnect for 20 years. I was told repeatedly that he was the 'bad guy' as he just needs to contact the International Justice Chief to get back in and his overts prevented him from doing that. Yea, right! Who's overts?

Over the years I accumulated a long list of things I didn't like about the church. The constant greed was one, the constant demand on my time to be on course was another. I hated seeing the poverty conditions of staff members and the sad neglect of their children while their parents were busy 'saving the planet'.


5. Why did you choose to stay in the Church of Scientology?
I had many family members 'in', including my spouse. I thought it was the most ethical group on the planet. Leaving would mean I was 'disaffected'. That's considered very bad.

6. Were you staff or public? If staff, was it at a mission or an org? Were you ever in the Sea Org or OSA? Which unit? If not on staff, did you ever volunteer to 'help out'?
Public, although I was on staff in one of the schools for many years. I was never in the SO or OSA and never wanted to help out.

7. Why did you leave the Church of Scientology? Was there a "final straw"?
I have Reed Slatkin to thank for that! When that mess hit the papers, I looked on the internet to see if there was an investor list. From there I just followed the links and slowly started 'de-brainwashing' myself.

8. Do you think the Church of Scientology needs to change some of its practices? If so, what should be changed? How did those practices affect your life?
YES!!! Constant greed, lawsuits and fair gaming (unable to turn the other cheek), disconnection, unreasonable time demands of staff with little pay are just a few.

Then there's all the technical changes they made when they invented the Golden Age of Tech - especially the one where F/N's have to make 2 complete sweeps (back and forth, back and forth) before being called. That's created havoc in MANY cases. But I guess that was the intention, wasn't it?

One of my family members recently joined the Sea Org in the LA area and is in the process of routing out. Why? Because he sleeps in a room with 18 other men, shares one bathroom with approximately 60 people, and their building has NO heat or air conditioning. They haven't been paid even their megar $50/week in over a month, their diet is (although not quite rice and beans) is heavy starch and very little protein, and his senior and other execs scream at him and others constantly. Not a way for a grown man to live! And interestingly enough, it hasn't changed his viewpoint on Scn - just how some people are running the SO. (He nor the rest of my family know that I'm 'out' as they'd be forced to disconnect from me.)

Although there were some good aspects of being in the church, these harmful practices have definitely been a detriment to my life. With every spare dollar going to the church and no time for anything else, it's as if time stood still, but my body continued to age. Luckily woke up when I did. I'm not too old to pull my life back together, get into a new career, and re-establish old (and new) ties with non-Scn family and friends.


9. If the items you listed in the previous question were changed, would you consider rejoining or staying in the Church of Scientology? If so, why?
No. I think there are some good aspects of the tech that are helpful, but unfortunately, they are trapped inside the cult shell. If one could take Scn from being this fake 'religion' and turn it simply into a school where you could take courses or get auditing if you wanted - or not - without constant pressure of literature, phone calls, and Scns knocking on doors, that would be the only way to save it.

But there isn't any more tech that I'm personally interested in getting. And I'm certainly not interested in redoing the constantly-changing courses I've already done.


10. Any additional comments you would like to make?
One of the things I've noticed in myself since getting 'out' has been my ability to think again for myself. When one is 'in', one thinks only with LRH references and adapts the church's viewpoints on EVERYTHING. I love the fact that I can now read anything I want to and have an opinion that does or doesn't agree with someone else's. I love the fact that I can finally be in comm with my father and his new family. I love the freedom I have to associate with anyone I want to!

I can now make non-Scn goals, plan my future, and start preparing for retirement. Retiring isn't something Scns do. Their viewpoint is they work until they no longer can, and then they drop their body. Personally, I want to slow down enough to smell the daisies, watch a sunset, and just enjoy life.

I'm no longer in airy-fairy Oz. I'm back in Kansas with my feet solidly on the ground.


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