Saturday, 28th September, 2002 11:48:18am
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- 1. How did you first become acquainted with the Church of
- A friend talked me into going with him to take a personality test in HAPI (Edinburgh).
- 2. What initially appealed to you about scientology?
- The spirit of the people on Staff in HAPI - they were a good bunch of people and I was intrigued. A Hubbard taped lecture about cause was probably the first intriguing thing I listened to and agreed with.
- 3. Were there problems in your life that you thought
scientology would address?
- I was bored out of my mind.
- 4. Did you see, experience, or hear about things that didn't
seem right while you were in the Church of Scientology? What were
they, and what convinced you to set aside your feelings?
- Yes, many different things but in fairness I ought to say that I also saw many good things. Perhaps my biggest disappointment was that I never saw anything being done that was being done simply to help others. It was all being done either for the greater glory or Hubbard or the CofS.
The second biggest was trying to find the original 'research' that had been done on Dianetics - I was fascinated by the XDN series in the HCOBs which did provide a glimpse of experimental auditing and C/Sing. I tried to find some evidence of the orignal 'stuff' and never could. It was all Hubbard saying 'what' he had 'found' without ever showing HOW he had found it.
- 5. Why did you choose to stay in the Church of
- Well I guess this is the part to say the good stuff a) the people in it and in the SO were a lot of fun and it was exciting. b) My son was born with rubella syndrome (deaf/blind) - my wife and I received nothing but support in the Sea Org - and it was whole hearted. In fact we should have left the SO, staying in it was a mistake - a mistake we made. Ironic eh? c) Meeting people who felt that they had done better because of scientology - that was great.
- 6. Were you staff or public? If staff, was it at a mission or
an org? Were you ever in the Sea Org or OSA? Which unit? If not on
staff, did you ever volunteer to 'help out'?
- I was in the SO - I started out as staff in HAPI, went to FOLO UK, went to Flag and the Commodores Staff area. Went to Europe as the Div 6 person at FOLO EU, became A/marketing Aide EU and the D/CO Production Europe and then CO AOSH EU. I ended up in the IMU which is where I left after getting declared.
- 7. Why did you leave the Church of Scientology? Was there a
- Well my take on it would be different from the CofS's - whe I got back to Scandinavia as he IMU Tour IC in 1989 I went round the orgs and found that they were fractions of their former size, they had been eaten alive by Flag regges and FSMs and SO recruitment. Even Stockholm org. I decided to do something about it and management disagreed with me.
The other pre-final straw was John Nelson getting declared - he was a good friend and a good SO member , I guess over the years it occurred to me that this whole 'declare' thing was just total crap.
- 8. Do you think the Church of Scientology needs to change some
of its practices? If so, what should be changed? How did those
practices affect your life?
- It needs to grow up. The cofs cannot tolerate discussion and dissent and that just continues to create problems. After all the stated aim is to create powerful individuals and yet as you move up in the CofS and as becomes apparent when you get out - the opposite is true. All scientologists react the same to scientological issues it is disturbing to watch.
- 9. If the items you listed in the previous question were
changed, would you consider rejoining or staying in the Church of
Scientology? If so, why?
- No. It is a flawed organization that can create real problems for people, some people do do OK in it and seem to enjoy making it their life's work. I'm not one of them.
- 10. Any additional comments you would like to make?
- I have been out for a long time now - I am sometimes troubled by how much some of the critics I have read seem to take on the same 'jihad' mentality that the CofS has.
I am very glad that I am out but I am not particularly sorry I was in. I do miss some good friends from that time though.