Scientology - Through the Door

Interviews

Friday, 31st August, 2012 06:44:40pm

Name or Alias: Joe Eveland
Training and/or processing level: TRs/Objectives
Org or location: Tampa
Time involved in the Church of Scientology: 5 Years
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1. How did you first become acquainted with the Church of Scientology?
I started working for a well known, Clearwater FL based WI$E group. It was there that I was introduced to my first Book One session and some basic courses before moving on to Org courses/auditing.

2. What initially appealed to you about scientology?
I saw how happy my friends and coworkers in general. I wasn’t a very happy person at that time but thru some basic auditing and courses; I was seeing the reason for everyone else’s cheerfulness. After my first auditing session and the joy and relief I got from it, I knew I needed more.

3. Were there problems in your life that you thought scientology would address?
I was battling extreme depression. I couldn’t make anything in my life go right. I was basically muddled and trudging through a daily existence.

4. Did you see, experience, or hear about things that didn't seem right while you were in the Church of Scientology? What were they, and what convinced you to set aside your feelings?
On a daily basis I saw things that weren’t adding up; “revised” Hubbard policies and tech bulletins, off-policy orders from corporate management, stat pushes, going “St. Hill” based on said stat pushes, verbal abuse from Org and S.O. management towards staff, consistent and never-ending regging of public and sometimes staff for more and more money for things like new buildings and such. The list goes on and on.

5. Why did you choose to stay in the Church of Scientology?
Even though I was becoming increasingly unhappy about management, I still felt like I was making a difference, my entire reason for joining staff in the first place. I thought that even though my staff experience in general sucked for me personally, if I could still genuinely help people that my personal experience wasn’t important.

6. Were you staff or public? If staff, was it at a mission or an org? Were you ever in the Sea Org or OSA? Which unit? If not on staff, did you ever volunteer to 'help out'?
I became staff within 6 months of my first Div 6 course. I started out as a Div 6 Course Admin and eventually became a Pro Book One Auditor and Director of the HDF.

7. Why did you leave the Church of Scientology? Was there a "final straw"?
I attempted to route off of staff properly and per policy twice due to the fact that there was no way in hell that I could afford to live on the very meager pay. I was told flat out by the HAS that he wasn’t going to let me route off. I stayed like a good “in-ethics” drone. Eventually my wife became pregnant with our son and I knew that being on staff wasn’t going to work while it was my duty to support my family and be there for them. (I worked at the Org 12-14 hours a day Monday thru Friday plus 8-10 hours on Saturday and course time on Sunday for an average of about $200/week, many times less money than that.) Knowing that if I tried to again route off properly that I would most likely be denied again, my wife and I made the decision to pack our belongings and get out of Dodge.

8. Do you think the Church of Scientology needs to change some of its practices? If so, what should be changed? How did those practices affect your life?
Absolutely they need to change their practices! Once corporate $cientology knows they have someone sucked in, the abuse starts whether that person is staff or public. Public may not endure the type of abuse that Org staff and Sea Org endure, but I do consider things such as conning a person into giving up everything they have ever worked for so corporate $cientology can buy yet another extravagant, unneeded building or so that DM can continue to live in opulence to be an abuse. Add to that the off-policy action of disconnection, the willful destruction of friendships and/or families and the Cof$ is nothing more than a group of human traffickers.

9. If the items you listed in the previous question were changed, would you consider rejoining or staying in the Church of Scientology? If so, why?
Most likely not. I refuse to criticize the religion/applied philosophy. It completely changed my life for the better and I would be lying if I didn’t say I weren’t still applying it to my life even now, six years after leaving. However, I have been involved in religion since birth whether by choice or not and I have seen the same result in organized religion time and time again, the same story as history has shown over the centuries. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Organized religion has been quite possibly the most visible example of corruption throughout history. I have a few friends whom have left the Cof$ over the years since I have and I’ve reunited with most who have. They respect my position even if they have joined the indie movement. I’m good with that.

10. Any additional comments you would like to make?
If you are still involved in corporate $cientology, you do have a choice regardless of what they tell you or the threats they make. You have the right as a human being to make the best choice for yourself, not the choice that a suppressive person makes for you. If you haven’t been trained in PTS/SP yet, I suggest you do so immediately. If you have trained, use your head and think for yourself just like Hubbard told you do in the study tapes.

For those who are “out” or have never been “in”, be gentle with those still “in”. They are in constant fear even if they don’t realize they are. After all, how else would you be if your entire eternity were threatened if you didn’t follow the “rules”? It's not my place nor yours to judge anyone else's beliefs. Be empathetic and have compassion on them, help them if and when they make that decision.


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