Thursday, 28th March, 2002 09:28:42pm
Name or Alias:
Training and/or processing level:
Grade IV release, Hubbard Standard Dianetics Course Grad, 1969
Org or location:
Time involved in the Church of Scientology:
Recommended Website - Losing The Religion
- 1. How did you first become acquainted with the Church of
- Through a friend of my mother's, Wanda Collins (do an internet search on her), who was a Scientologist, way back in 1966.
- 2. What initially appealed to you about scientology?
- The god-like promise of OT, which, to the mind of a superhero infatuated boy of 15, was irresistable.
- 3. Were there problems in your life that you thought
scientology would address?
- None. I never became a Scientologist to solve personal problems. I was a boy, one who was not concerned with such things, only ice-cream, model airplanes, and superheros.
- 4. Did you see, experience, or hear about things that didn't
seem right while you were in the Church of Scientology? What were
they, and what convinced you to set aside your feelings?
- A big turn off for me was being a Sea Org member, and being a staff member; the life we led was subhuman, much worse than anything I had ever experienced. The disconnects going on, at the time -- they didn't seem right. The fact that, when you visit an org, everyone is strutting around, like a rushing stream, rapidly wearing out the carpets, in the process, from room to room; that was bizarre. The money thing, i.e., money, money, money. Scientologists snooty attitude about non-scientologists. The downward spiral theory didn't make sense, nor did the idea of 'the supreme test of a thetan is to make things go right'. I began to have philosophical differences, and realized that Hubbard wasn't as infallible as he wanted everyone to believe. And there are many other reasons, most of which are described in greater detail on my website.
- 5. Why did you choose to stay in the Church of
- I stayed as long as I believed in the OT thing, but when I realized it was just a childish wish, one not rooted in reality, I realized the whole thing was a sham, even though I accepted some aspects of Dianetics for awhile. Later, my thinking advanced and realized that, if the physical brain is ultra-complex, the odds are the mind is far more complex than the simplistic model offered by Dianetics, as well. And so, I do not agree with Dianetics, on the whole. However, recovering lost repressed memories via past life regressive therapy, which is similar to Dianetics, has experienced similar healing aspects among its adherents. Therefore, if Dianetics heals, it does so despite itself. But it is a limited thing, practiced by unqualified people.
- 6. Were you staff or public? If staff, was it at a mission or
an org? Were you ever in the Sea Org or OSA? Which unit? If not on
staff, did you ever volunteer to 'help out'?
- Staff, Sea Org.
- 7. Why did you leave the Church of Scientology? Was there a
- My own sense of spirituality began to conflict to such a degree, the whole premise of Scientology fell apart. I left in 1975, long before the internet and learning of the silliness of the OT levels, i.e,'Xenu', et. al.
- 8. Do you think the Church of Scientology needs to change some
of its practices? If so, what should be changed? How did those
practices affect your life?
- Yes. Ban OSA, and all of its practices. Quit posting negative sites about people, passing out libelous flyers about people. Be up front with people. Quit 'regging' them do death. Quit being a bully -- being so mean to people.
- 9. If the items you listed in the previous question were
changed, would you consider rejoining or staying in the Church of
Scientology? If so, why?
- No. All religions, in my view, are but a stage through which everyone will pass on the journey to perfection, eventually. I have reached that stage where I will never need a religion, ever again. This of course, presupposes a new set of beliefs, but that is me.
- 10. Any additional comments you would like to make?
- Scientology, unless it changes, will incense greater numbers of people. That is happening now.