Tuesday, 28th February, 2012 10:41:28am
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Celebrity center international (LA)
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- 1. How did you first become acquainted with the Church of
- My parents are scientologists. But I got in through one of their friends which was an FSM (a person who gets commissions when he gets someone to pay to do something in scientology). I started with the a small introductory course and the purif.
- 2. What initially appealed to you about scientology?
- It seemed to be very structured, logical, and have ALL the answers. I found the axioms interesting. And also people where very nice, and the place looked nice, not like a cult...
- 3. Were there problems in your life that you thought
scientology would address?
- There wasn't one particular thing I think...but I was kind of shy, and so everyone there was so nice....and also I've always been curious, asked myself questions about the mind, life and so forth and so I started to look at their answers....
- 4. Did you see, experience, or hear about things that didn't
seem right while you were in the Church of Scientology? What were
they, and what convinced you to set aside your feelings?
- Where to start at?
So many things are not right in Scn and the SO...
But I have to say that when I was in these things were not wrong for me, as I was thinking as a scientologist.
First the way that SO members live and work. I mean this is almost slavery! But when you're inside you are happy to be there, and would't want anyone to take you out!
But if I look back at it, so many things were wrong..
We were not free to go were we wanted: we had to stay on the base and work, or be in the berthing building, and at the proper times. There were security guards watching us (it was one part of their attribution, not the only one), so that we be at the right place at the right time, and also so that we don't leave....so anyone talking about free beings??
So I put myself, willingly and happily in a kind of jail...
What about one day off every other week? And that is if you have your statistics up that week, only then are you authorized to apply for that day off...I think I maybe took a dozen of them during my 4 years in the SO, as I was really motivated we could say..
I mean there is too much to say, but basically you work all the time, the day was divided in 4 sections, something like 9-12 1-3:30pm 3:30-6pm and 7-9:30pm
Three of these sections were used for work, and one for studying only scientology, every day...and often people would't go on study because they were too busy working...there was 3 musters a day, to brief the staff and account for them...
Sex was only accepted if you were married to another SO member, and were told that we shouldn't masturbate, if you did so they would try and correct you...
No news rom the outside world, no TV, no newspapers...
The discipline was very strict, with people getting yelled at....
There's so much...have you ever scrubbed dumpsters? Well I have.
- 5. Why did you choose to stay in the Church of
- 6. Were you staff or public? If staff, was it at a mission or
an org? Were you ever in the Sea Org or OSA? Which unit? If not on
staff, did you ever volunteer to 'help out'?
- I was in the Sea Org, 4 years. I joined I think 3/4 weeks after got on a course...They started to try and recruit me very fast, even though I was brand new..I think that is one of the things that is not right in Scn and specially the SO, they try to recruit anyone who fits their qualifications, even if they are new or too young...and when they try to recruit you it's quite something, it can become some kind of harassment. While I was on the purif they (the 2 guys on my cycle) would wait for me almost every night, and they even make you feel bad for not joining them, they even came to my home one day and told me to pack my bags and go with them but I refused ( it was on thursday for the stats..).
This is WRONG, first because they convince people to join ( not all the time of course, there are people who join because they want to, but from what I've seen most of the people don't make the first step and they just get talked about it..) and secondly necause they do that with brand new people, or teenagers, basically people who don't know what they want to do with their lives, or who don't realize what they get into... and lastly because once you're in (the SO) it's not an easy thing to leave at least it wasn't for me, the Sea Org is a system that once you enter it, everything is made so you never look back, think back about that commitment, and if you do so you are a traitor, it's because you did bad things.....they say ex-SO are degraded beings....
Anyways they're so much to say....
- 7. Why did you leave the Church of Scientology? Was there a
- Not really, it was gradually for me.
But what really got me out was that Scn and the life in the SO drove me nuts!!!
I mean really, I was in a bad shape in the end...didn't know what to think any more, lost contact with reality....in the end I was set apart from the rest of the group as I was thinking about leaving, just doing manual labor all day, looked upon as a piece of shit, for months.....
- 8. Do you think the Church of Scientology needs to change some
of its practices? If so, what should be changed? How did those
practices affect your life?
- 9. If the items you listed in the previous question were
changed, would you consider rejoining or staying in the Church of
Scientology? If so, why?
- Hell no!
Because the whole system is not right. I made research since I left (which you can't do when you're in...) and realized that Hubbard was just a human like us. Someone who works for the church for a very long tme told me that he knows that Hubbard had several strokes before the last one that killed him...and this alone is enough for me to establish that the whole Scn dogma is false, because if it were right Hubbard would have been a very powerfull spirit with great abilities, and would have just left his body when he wanted in the end (which is what the church officials publicly said).
So I know the whole thing is false, and can even get you in a bad shape. When you're an active scientologist, you loose a prt of youre critical thinking, plus it acts as a cult!!!
- 10. Any additional comments you would like to make?
- It took me a long time to recover from this experience, and I'm still recovering actually.
It's been really weird, because at the beginning I really enjoyed it, I loved being with nice people, all working together to achieve something we were certain was
right, all this towards a dream of greatness, immportality!!
But it really fucked me up , and it's taking me years to get over it.
In the end I don't care what people believe, they are free to think what they want. People can belive in space opera if they want. But what is wrong in Scn is that you're not free when you're in it, it disconnects you from real life and everything else becomes secondary, even your family...and I ended up having to find myself back...