Sunday, 30th June, 2002 05:06:19pm
Name or Alias:
Training and/or processing level:
Class IV / Level I
Org or location:
CANADA, Quebec, Montreal Org
Time involved in the Church of Scientology:
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- 1. How did you first become acquainted with the Church of
- I had a friend who made gains while in and I wanted the same thing. He really was changed.
- 2. What initially appealed to you about scientology?
- The ready gains I made at first.
The auditing system is self-consistent and appears logical.
A lot of other non-auditing techniques is, since LRon cribbed from all over the place and copied all workable technologies he could lay his hands on: he even gives the recipe on how to clean windows with journal paper and vinegar!
- 3. Were there problems in your life that you thought
scientology would address?
- Sure: I wanted them to find the source of why I would attrack loony girls. It got so bad that the last one was certifiable. They never found it. I'm now more relaxed about it.
Also there were other things like overspending (excluding the COS extractions) and just plain over-all disorganization. These two were fixed for sure.
- 4. Did you see, experience, or hear about things that didn't
seem right while you were in the Church of Scientology? What were
they, and what convinced you to set aside your feelings?
- Nothing that would be a door-opener but...
The first 'niggler' was lack of commercial success, if it is so good how come people are not coming in droves?
Then there were the 'itchers': lack of respect of the given words (rent-to-be-paid never on time)(loans never repaid), no taking of responsabilities for superior's actions by these superiors all the while self-serving justifications were used to 'make it right' (I was constantly being pulled off post then braided for not completing the previous actions.)
Then there were the 'unsettlers', things that should not be, really.
Like regging where two people would tag against one and that one would sign over money just so they could leave the Org late at night, having just bought another course they never would have bought otherwise.
Like the IAS events where people would donate amounts they could not spare for what I found out later were lies. It got so I would make myself really scarce if there was an IAS event.
Like the time they stood behind me to get me to ask for money from my familly members on the phone (some thing I am not proud of at all)
Then of course the working conditions more akin to an armed force under attack than a service organization, lack of respect for staff and all the corner cutting that comes from having no resources (Toilet papere, anyone?) due to lack of commercial success.
- 5. Why did you choose to stay in the Church of
- I really made personnal gains while I was in and learned a lot that I still use in my life. Like study tech and the organization tech, confronting bad situation.
I like auditing. I was trained as a Class IV and specialized in Sec Checking, which if done properly will bring the most and deepest changes in PCs life that one could witness since one is truly exorcising personnal demons that are monkeys on their back (sorry, no examples).
- 6. Were you staff or public? If staff, was it at a mission or
an org? Were you ever in the Sea Org or OSA? Which unit? If not on
staff, did you ever volunteer to 'help out'?
- Staff at Montreal (CANADA, Quebec) Org.
I was a Class IV in-training, technical delivery division. Since we were constantly short of any technically trainable personnel, I was hatted for a variety of other posts: Acting Qual Sec, Purif Rundown supervisor, Word Clearer (1, 2, 7 and 9 (method number)), Course supervisor (the really short course).
- 7. Why did you leave the Church of Scientology? Was there a
- No last straw.
After four years, I was found to be 'out-qual', COS jargon meaning 'something is missing there'. I was found so at Flag Land Base in Clearwater, where I had gone to train, by Flub Catch (their real name, BTM) no less: meaning I was no longer a staff, no matter my previous qualifications and training and willingness to help. I could only be a paying public.
I found myself at the start of a three months sabbatical with no reason anymore for it, so I got a computer specifically to go on the net (the net was just starting big then).
The rest is history.
- 8. Do you think the Church of Scientology needs to change some
of its practices? If so, what should be changed? How did those
practices affect your life?
- Anything that has to do with dealing with 'enemies' have to go. But then these are sacred scriptures so they will be kept and since LRon never did envision anything like the net, they will be undone by that medium on instant communication.
- 9. If the items you listed in the previous question were
changed, would you consider rejoining or staying in the Church of
Scientology? If so, why?
I think I out-grew them.
I might become a paying public to train myself but then I would probably deal with free-zoners. However, I have never done so until now so the chanve that I would re-use Scientology is truly slim.
- 10. Any additional comments you would like to make?
- No. Thanks for listening.