Scientology - Through the Door

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Friday, 13th May, 2011 09:07:04am

Name or Alias: Kathy McBride
Training and/or processing level: dianetics, Book One auditing
Org or location: Nashville Celebrity Centre
Time involved in the Church of Scientology: 2001-2004
Recommended Website - n/a
1. How did you first become acquainted with the Church of Scientology?
In 1988 I wanted to do past-life regressions but didn't want to do hypnosis and didn't have the money for a psychologist. One of my roommates said that she knew someone who did past life regressions and offered to contact her. We arranged to meet and we talked. The friend of the friend (FOF) and I agreed to regress each other. This was done using Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health, aka Book One.

I moved to a city with a Celebrity Centre in 1993 and didn't do any Scientology until 2001 when another friend moved there and convinced me to take the beginning Dianetics course, the Hubbard Dianetics Auditors' Course.

I took the Volunteer Minister Course in 2004, then the money course, and finally the Hat of a Scientologist course.


2. What initially appealed to you about scientology?
Past-life regressions.

3. Were there problems in your life that you thought scientology would address?
No.

4. Did you see, experience, or hear about things that didn't seem right while you were in the Church of Scientology? What were they, and what convinced you to set aside your feelings?
Everything cost too much and took too long to do. The whole grade chart of everything to do was tiresome. One's expected to "do the Bridge" in its entirety. One woman was taking the Science of Survival course and was married to a rich man who paid for whatever she is, but who was a blustering man who bullied her. Because he paid for her courses nobody told her to disconnect. A couple of times members told me that Christ was PTS. The potential trouble source belief was so strongly ingrained in these people that "PTSness" as they called it, was said to be THE cause of illness. Staff told me to not take any kind of medication. During the 24 hours that I was on staff I was told that I should come to an event instead of visiting my elderly mother. If I swung my leg or yawned during class I was told to clear words. It got to the point that I would simply point to a word, any word, just to get the pompous dolt of an Academy supervisor to go away.

5. Why did you choose to stay in the Church of Scientology?
I wanted to learn to do past-life regressions, which is why I did the Dianetics course. The Volunteer Minister Course was useful. There were no other courses I liked, so I quit.

6. Were you staff or public? If staff, was it at a mission or an org? Were you ever in the Sea Org or OSA? Which unit? If not on staff, did you ever volunteer to 'help out'?
I was mostly public but on staff as the Bookstore Officer for about 24 hours in 2004. This was at that Celebrity Centre.

7. Why did you leave the Church of Scientology? Was there a "final straw"?
Two friends disconnected, one because she was spiraling into a mid-life crisis and tried to run my life. I screamed at her one day over it and she disconnected. The other disconnected because I routed off staff. I complained to him that the ED was not letting me gracefully resign. This friend went to Celebrity Centre International in LA where his daughter was going into the Sea Org; I think that they asked him, as part of the conditions of her going into the Sea Org, if he knew of anyone who was antagonistic toward Scientology; he must have mentioned me and they told him to disconnect. I wasn't antagonistic up to that point, but after that I was! This was in 2005. Having two people who called themselves "clear" disconnect was too juvenile for words. I couldn't have anything to do with an organization fostering this kind of childishness.

8. Do you think the Church of Scientology needs to change some of its practices? If so, what should be changed? How did those practices affect your life?
Dianetics should be emphasized. People should first read it first, then take the co-audit. I've found Book One auditing to be very useful. It's easy to learn. Anyone can do it.

Make everything optional. Stop making it sound as if everyone has to take everything on the Bridge in step by step order.

Bust down the prices for those absurd lectures to $10.00 per lecture. Sell them on Amazon. Offer mp3 versions of the lectures on Amazon and the Golden Age of Knowledge website. If this is such crucial information to them then they should get it into the hands of as many people as possible and make the lectures cheap enough that anyone with a computer can afford.

Bust down the prices of the courses so that they're cheap enough for anyone to afford.

Get rid of the Sea Org. If they want to have a monastic order, then it should be a monastic order for real. They could sell fruitcakes like the Trappists and aprons like the Shakers. They could live in a real monastery or nunnery and have gardens and fruit trees. They'd be self-supporting and they'd eat better.

Get rid of the OT levels. They are not just silly but crazily expensive.

Lose the "us against them" mentality. Nobody is out to get them. Everyone just thinks they're silly. I even thought it was silly when I was in. I was just trying to get past-life regressions.

Sell the huge properties. Work out of storefront offices.

Ditch the whole "church" thing. Out of the whole 7 billion of us on planet Earth, the only ones who think this is a church are the ones in it, and only some of them.

Stop lying about the OT levels.

Stop telling everyone they "have" to do all this. That kind of thing doesn't work for 21st century people.

Ditch the Purification Rundown. There are better methods of detoxing.

Show people how to MAKE an E-meter. They're not that hard to make. They're pretty simple machines. There are even programs out there which you can download for free which makes your computer into an e-meter.

Have downloads of the books available on Amazon---all the books.

Practice transparency. Openly talk about everything they do.


9. If the items you listed in the previous question were changed, would you consider rejoining or staying in the Church of Scientology? If so, why?
No. I took all the courses I wanted and there aren't any others to take. I just think it would be easier on newcomers if these simplifications were used. I've moved on. I'm exploring all the healing modalities out there, modalities that focus strictly on healing.

10. Any additional comments you would like to make?
I think that if Scientology were simplified and the emphasis placed on purging oneself of one's present and past-life traumas, then it could be of use to the world. As it is, with its elaborate rules and regulations, its mass of "courses" it is useless.

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