Wednesday, 26th June, 2002 00:49:32am
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- 1. How did you first become acquainted with the Church of
- Business Management group called Expansion Management Services. Someone used a Money and You mailing list and got hold of a friend of mine. I just happen to answer her phone for her one day.
- 2. What initially appealed to you about scientology?
- They suggested they had some answers to the questions of life. So I rocked on down and found out about courses they offered. Later on I found out they had charged in excess of $500 for a $50 org course. Hows that for personal ethics. The justification was a good one.
- 3. Were there problems in your life that you thought
scientology would address?
- Not particularly. I was just on a search path. A searcher of universal truths. Just fascinated in alternative things. Had no idea that the Church of Scio was involved with the business group for ages. When I did find out I certainly hadn't heard anything bad about them. You know why because I didn't know anyone who had heard about scn full stop. Living in a different country, not one whisper was ever brought to my attention.
- 4. Did you see, experience, or hear about things that didn't
seem right while you were in the Church of Scientology? What were
they, and what convinced you to set aside your feelings?
- Sure. But most of what I was involved in happened to be in the business sector. OT's in the 'wog' world making a living to support the costs involved in going up the Bridge. People talk alot about the Church itself, however there is the wider aspect to all of this and that is the public interacting with Scientologist in the community. Most of the people I knew where ex staff members involved in still going up the Bridge. I'm afraid the tactics that they had been subjected to infiltrated into other organisations. Have you ever been subject to a 'witch hunt' - its not a very comfortable feeling, especially when they raid your house and go through all your personal belongings, then turn the other cheek and say it was alright. When Scio's use a structure to justify crimes and turn the tides on the person exposing the injustices, there is definitely something wrong with that group. Why bother joining the real thing when the sub-group hands out all the lessons free of charge- No 5 or billion year contracts involved.
I could never fathom out why so many Sco smoked like chimneys. Smoking in my books is a drug you get addicted to.
How they could work in the Org and SO for nothing less than pocket money. Except for the Reg. They got commissions and very good ones at that . Throw the idea out that everyone works for an equal portion. Not likely.
How they reg people to sell their homes and leave them without a house to live in. Absolutely shocking. Worse than a scam artist. They say it is in the name of clearing the planet. Here I ask my most fundamental of questions. For whom is the planet being cleared?
How they harassed and baggered you on a daily basis.To complete a course, get your stats up, buy auditing, buy a book, buy a set of tapes. Beg, borrow or increase your credit card to the max.How they sucked money out of you until there was none left.
Knowing their tactics my husband and I came up with our own polices so they couldn't pit one against the other and say but your wife said this and your husband said that. They only did it once. My saving grace it that my husband and I have always been a very strong team.
If you ever took a poll on current & ex Sco I think it would reveal very interesting things.
Freeloaders bill- So you have spent five years of your life working your guts out 24/7 and in the end they convince you to sign another contract or wack you with a freeloaders bill. What hogwash. I think what keeps alot of Scio's in is the fact that they feel obligated to pay off these arbitry bills. Never heard of any other organisation who slaps such a debt on its parishioners.
I've seen kids wander aimlessly in orgs. Bored and unhappy. Their parents too busy to spend time with them-day in day out week in week out.
- 5. Why did you choose to stay in the Church of
- I made a committment to myself to see something through to a completion. To finish something I started. I stayed for a short time and then hung round on the fringes for a while trying to uncover injustice and truth for what it was worth. I beleive there are numerous SCO who given the truth would certainly look twice.
I suppose my main reason for being in SCO, upon evaluating the organisation and its tactics for myself, was I had some great friends. Friends I wanted to help and friends I really appreciated. People I fought for and people I shared a spiritual bond with.
- 6. Were you staff or public? If staff, was it at a mission or
an org? Were you ever in the Sea Org or OSA? Which unit? If not on
staff, did you ever volunteer to 'help out'?
- Public & Staff at an LRH school.What a mine field!
- 7. Why did you leave the Church of Scientology? Was there a
- I had a realisation that they didn't have answers to greater things I was looking for. They couldn't answer my questions they just wanted money for things they told me I needed, but I had no interest in. I ordered Lobster and they said no I needed sardines in a tin. Well thanks but no thanks.
- 8. Do you think the Church of Scientology needs to change some
of its practices? If so, what should be changed? How did those
practices affect your life?
Abolish ethics tech and find out how to help people instead of punishing them. How is that a spouse can write a knowledge report on one another and still have a marriage survive. Baffles me. The number of people I knew who had affairs, or went through divorces amazed me. I had friends who wrote reports on me and wrote lies, then you had to prove that these were not true. It took me years to uncover some of these injustices. I suppose that's one of the reasons I stayed around so long. I wasn't going to walk away without uncovering the truth. In the end they closed shop on me. Because I frightened their very principles. No! principles they didn't have just the green on white book they shoved at me continually. Do you know for every policy they point at you to show you how bad they are, you can invariably find another to support your argument. Just a paper war with bodies in the middle. Best one is if you're upstat. They can't touch you.Next one is to find out what their game is-play along and watch what happens.
How do they legally get away with having employees who received little pay who aren't suppose to 'moonlight' (get a 'wog' outside job.) I see the point they are too tired to work two jobs and if a senior says jump and work all night you jump.How can you do this 'moonlighting' you can't you'd get the sack.
- 9. If the items you listed in the previous question were
changed, would you consider rejoining or staying in the Church of
Scientology? If so, why?
The whole organisation is based on fear. Fear of not achieving targets, fear of not being able to live up to standards, fear of being labelled an SP, fear of telling the truth, fear of having overts. Let me say this. If you tell the truth, it will be used against you. Perhaps not straight away but at some time it will. I had a friend who told me something in confidence. Never passed it on. However she did tell someone else. It made her life a living hell.
- 10. Any additional comments you would like to make?
- I got something from some of the study courses. It filled a gap in parts of my education. However for the most part. I learned how to use my strengths and apply my courage. I learnt how to stand up for my rights and for other people. No religion ever really appealed to me before Scn and I certainly have no desire to be part of any church from here to eternity. My own inner being of personal integrity and spirituality is of greater importance to me then any group.