Scientology - Through the Door

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Wednesday, 16th April, 2008 08:38:55pm

Name or Alias: GreyLensman
Training and/or processing level: OT III OT Doctorate
Org or location: California
Time involved in the Church of Scientology: 19 years
Recommended Website - Ex Scientologist Message Board (and Ex-Scientology Kids http://www.exscientologykids.com/)
1. How did you first become acquainted with the Church of Scientology?
read Dianetics, filled out a personality test, went into a mission to get a co-audit partner, ended up on the Comm Course doing drills

2. What initially appealed to you about scientology?
Clear. And an attitude that you took what was valid and threw the ret of the unworkable stuff away, coming up finally with a road through and out. I was Buddhist at heart.

3. Were there problems in your life that you thought scientology would address?
Shy, introverted, lost. Lokking for a purpose in life and not completely happy with what I was accomplishing and needing tools to help make things happen.

4. Did you see, experience, or hear about things that didn't seem right while you were in the Church of Scientology? What were they, and what convinced you to set aside your feelings?
Yep.
1) there is a finance policy that insists that borrowing money is the wrong way to handle finances, and yet the Scientology registrars were asking about credit and insisting that after your next step those debts would seem like nothing at all to repay. A complete misunderstanding of compound interest.
2) Arbitrary schedules, people trying to survive on 2 and three hours of sleep.
3) I went to a doctor with a foot injury in Clearwater. The injury had not been handled right away. The doctor, who apparently treated LOTS of Scientologists, seemed in apathy when he prescribed a really really strong antibiotic to handle a systemic infection - the would had become pretty bad. He stated that he knew I wasn't going to follow any of the treatments he recommended - I said What would give you that idea? Of course I will - you are the mechanic, I know I have to follow the best effective recommendation for healing - he said that many of the Scientologists he treated refused blatantly to follow his instructions. I said that's not LRH at all, that that's not what L. Ron Hubbard said. It wasn't. But I heard similar crap from the brand new Sea Org recruits, and realized the doctor's experience was valid. Morons...
4) I had some auditing (counseling) that was intended to resolve my marriage - it did. It blew up completely. I spent the next several years trying to resolve the issues this caused, and finally gave up handing it through the Church. I started exercising and eating right and over time I felt great. Not because of the exercise, but more because it took my attention away from trying to always, always use a Scientological solution to a problem.
5) RPF (Sea Organization slaves, basically). I was working in the Church of Scientology mill and a wood chip was thrown out of the shaper into the neck of one of the RPF - we are talking physical medical emergency. They were holding the would and doing a contact assist - where you touch the infured area back to where it was injured - should have been done AFTER getting him medical care, period. Frighteningly fanatic.
Enough, many more incidents.


5. Why did you choose to stay in the Church of Scientology?
Ultimately I didn't, but it took about 13 years to go from not actively pursuing it, to determining that I was NOT going to pursue services with this church ever again.

I stayed initially and justified what I experienced and saw as just part of the stuff you have to go through to get an aberrated planet back on track, because there were very good things I got out of auditing, even in OT III. My friend were and in some cases are Scientologists still in. The mother of my children was a Scientologist and would have loved to assist in disconnecting my kids from me.


6. Were you staff or public? If staff, was it at a mission or an org? Were you ever in the Sea Org or OSA? Which unit? If not on staff, did you ever volunteer to 'help out'?
Staff. Mission and Org and worked closely with Sea Org renovations here and there.

7. Why did you leave the Church of Scientology? Was there a "final straw"?
No. Just an accumulated realization that what I thought I was part of didn't really exist. That there wasn't an underlying intention to do good, that this place was just way, way off the rails. That people dedicated there lives to this and became worse for it. That they treated their staff like crap. That the admin 'technology' was horseshit, that justice was political and arbitrary, the exact things it was supposed to resolve, and that my opinions were true to me, but would only be rejected and held as an indicator of my own crimes against the Church. A friend of mine worked on the Founding Church in DC - he came back from it shell-shocked and bitter, and refused to speak of it but I picked up over time that he had been assaulted, abused by David Miscavige. I realized these guys at the top were not my friend nor were they mankinds friends. I was also tired of the veneration of L. Ron Hubbard - jeez, the guy was just a guy... Never a God. Or even a minor diety. I think the first inkling I had that I was going to have to take a look at being part of this was when I asked a supervisor at the advanced organization Los Angeles if I could make a copy of an unofficial picture in the courseroom. A public person who had trained with LRH in 1952 had taken a wonderful snapshot of the old man - he was maybe 42 years of age, healthy, you could see he was a bit tired, but a warm person. She said the picture was coming down, because it wasn't an LRH official picture. Isaid but it was the Ron I remember, dammit, I was really really angry that that truth, that side of him as he really was, was to be further hidden and manipulated. Sorry this rambles...

8. Do you think the Church of Scientology needs to change some of its practices? If so, what should be changed? How did those practices affect your life?
YES! Stop charging an arm and a leg for services - start actually helping people. Apply finance policy to your public and help them become stronger! Don't intimidate people, lead by example! Stop suing people. It's like the US government determing to OK torture - you can't cut across your own ideas and not destroy yourself. But none of this will happen

9. If the items you listed in the previous question were changed, would you consider rejoining or staying in the Church of Scientology? If so, why?
I'd have to see and then think about it.

10. Any additional comments you would like to make?
Just that the original ideas and the tech was and is a good thing - but the organization as it exists is truly dangerous and destructive. Any organization that advocates abortions because it's staff shouldn't actually have children - that's just crazy. This needs to be disolved.

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