Sunday, 9th December, 2007 04:42:47pm
Name or Alias:
Training and/or processing level:
Clear and others
Org or location:
Advanced Organization of Los Angeles (AOLA)
Time involved in the Church of Scientology:
Recommended Website - http://
- 1. How did you first become acquainted with the Church of
- A friend was a Scientologist and convinced me to attend a free Introductory Lecture with him/her. I wasn't too impressed but my friend persuaded me into taking the Communication Course for $15.00, which was the next step after the Intro Lecture. (I think the Comm Course costs about $300.00 now.)
- 2. What initially appealed to you about scientology?
- The Communication Course was evenings for me and took two weeks to do. I was totally blown away with the training, very excited because it rid me of my shyness and feelings of unworthiness by simply teaching me how to just be there and easily confront the person(s) in front of me. Other very workable and necessary communication skills were taught. I could use the skills in my everyday life and be at 'cause' rather than 'effect' when interacting with others. This was a huge win for me and made me think Scientology was amazing and definitely worth pursuing.
- 3. Were there problems in your life that you thought
scientology would address?
- I was shy some of the time, had a negative self-image, was depressed, sometimes very deeply, a lot of the time, and was taught Scientology would provide the answers at the upper levels to the questions that everyone has about human existence, etc. I was fairly young and didn't know what I wanted to do with my life; I was frequently questing and frightened for my future as I found jobs to be boring and underpaid and I lacked the self-confidence to go back to college.
- 4. Did you see, experience, or hear about things that didn't
seem right while you were in the Church of Scientology? What were
they, and what convinced you to set aside your feelings?
- I did see many things that shouldn't be, but so badly wanted Scientology to work, to help me and others, I accepted the 'reasoning' behind the suppressive, ruthless and unethical practices. Scientologists weren't allowed to read ANYTHING that was anti-Scientology and got into trouble with the Ethics Department if they did, because if it was anti-Scientology it had to have been written by an SP (Suppressive Person); in other words a very psychotic, dangerous, evil person with terrible motives. The 'Church' kept Scientologists from learning the truth about Scientology this way, as well as declaring an SP anyone who left Scientology and therefore completely off-limits (and fair game) to Scientologists, no communication of any kind, and this resulted sometimes in the breaking up of families. An active, dedicated Scientologist could also be declared an SP by the Ethics Dept. and have to work their way back into good graces in order to be a part of the 'Church'. All Scientologists were very unknowingly brainwashed, virtually all completely dedicated to the Scientology cause and would sacrifice anything to be a part of it, even kill if ordered to. It's chilling but I would have killed if convinced of its utter necessity. I am so thankful I was never told to. I do know of some murders committed by Scientologists, such as an 'accidental overboard' in the Mediterranean Sea on a Scientology ship of a person who wanted to leave and expose Scientology for what it is. L. Ron Hubbard lived on that ship, which motored the world's seas to keep L. Ron free of arrest by the authorities in several countries for fraud and all sorts of things. No one knew the location of this ship except for those few at the very top of Scientology.
- 5. Why did you choose to stay in the Church of
- I believed Scientology had all the answers to the human mind and could rid me of all my aberrations, 'Clear' me. A Clear, a state I obtained, is supposed to be a super being without any physical or mental ills, completely peaceful and at cause in the universe. When I was declared 'Clear' I had to wonder why I wasn't as described and was told I needed to do all the levels above Clear for total sanity and freedom as a being. As Scientology had 'all the answers' it was extremely valuable, without par, and according to the 'Church', psychiatry was pure evil and didn't work except to really screw a person up. I had an inherited 'mental illness' I didn't know about, but it was the basic reason I was in Scientology and from the symptoms of which I wanted relief. In 24 years as a Scientologist my real problem was never addressed but I was often punished, humiliated and publicly (within the Scientology community) villified for the symptoms of my real and completely ignored illness. Psychiatry, with the proper medication, easily and quickly took care of my problem, something Scientology had never come close to doing in 24 years, but in fact, had actually exacerbated with continual stress, invalidation, manipulation and suppression.
- 6. Were you staff or public? If staff, was it at a mission or
an org? Were you ever in the Sea Org or OSA? Which unit? If not on
staff, did you ever volunteer to 'help out'?
- I was on staff for awhile but most of the time just 'public'.
- 7. Why did you leave the Church of Scientology? Was there a
- A friend who had left Scientology finally told me that he/she was no longer a Scientologist and why and I was completely shocked, but sceptically listened. (Most Scientologists won't listen because they are too brainwashed and too desperate for Scientology to be real.) He/she recommended some books, such as 'L.Ron Hubbard, Madman or Messiah?' and 'A Piece of Blue Sky'. In reading these books I came across the names of ex-Scientologists that I hadn't known were 'ex', people I knew and respected, and that made the books credible. The information within was very enlightening and I then understood all the 'outnesses' I had witnessed and personally experienced as a 'Church' member.
- 8. Do you think the Church of Scientology needs to change some
of its practices? If so, what should be changed? How did those
practices affect your life?
- Scientology needs to change a LOT of its practices, beginning with each Scientologist, and especially staff members, taking an honest and good hard look at where they are as beings and noting they are not as described by Scientology for the level they have attained, with a great deal of time, energy and money expended. All Scientologists should, very much, read the two books I noted, with as open a mind as they can muster. All they have ever been allowed is pro-Scientology information, very false and misleading, and totally kept from ANY anti-Scientology data. They remain truly brainwashed as a result. If Scientology is what it says it is, it should not mind a Scientologist reading, hearing or seeing ANYTHING anti-Scientology, it should not be considered evil and dangerous as it is portrayed now. Beginning Scientology (Communication Course and Hubbard Qualified Scientologist Course aka HQS) do work, they are powerful and worthwhile, but after 24 years in Scientology I cannot say that about any other course or auditing (counseling). The first two courses are so good they suck a person right in to the 'Church' but things become more nebulous after that, far less evident of change for the better, and in fact do not produce positive change, but Scientology has an answer to that too: obviously I'm a Suppressive Person and therefore cannot make gains and that's why Scientology didn't work for me. Hah! The cost for the Communication and HQS Courses should be lowered so everyone can afford them. I don't know of any other courses that should be offered and auditing must be discontinued as it just doesn't work, as well as being insanely expensive. L. Ron Hubbard was brilliant but he culled what was best from other religions like Buddhism and claimed them to be the result of his own research. His very laudatory background itself is false.
- 9. If the items you listed in the previous question were
changed, would you consider rejoining or staying in the Church of
Scientology? If so, why?
- No, I would not rejoin Scientology as I have already done the two courses worth doing. Refresher courses would be nice, but not necessary, and I want no part of such an awful organization. Some of the people in it would continue to be that way, regardless of how enlightened with the truth the majority of Scientologists became. Scientology justifies their every action with the 'fact' it is mankind's only salvation and desperately needed before we blow the planet up in a nuclear holocaust! That certainly makes being a Scientologist very urgent, doesn't it? LOL!
- 10. Any additional comments you would like to make?
- STAY AWAY FROM SCIENTOLOGY!!!!! If you want to do the Comm Course and the HQS Course I can recommend them, but it's terribly difficult to not be pulled in by all the wonderful things you will be told about Scientology and how evil anyone against it is. Do not read any of their books!! They are positively a brainwashed cult, capable of anything, including the murders committed in the past and possibly the present, necessary they say for the survival of Scientology, the only organization on Earth with the answers to all of man's ills. Nonsense. You may wonder how anyone can be so stupid as to believe all this but it is done very subtly, extremely well, and it is much easier to brainwash people than they realize.