Wednesday, 19th September, 2007 06:18:03pm
Name or Alias:
Training and/or processing level:
CL 6 C/S, Clearing Course
Org or location:
Time involved in the Church of Scientology:
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- 1. How did you first become acquainted with the Church of
- Intro Lecture and Communications Course
- 2. What initially appealed to you about scientology?
- The old Grade Chart! I was on the Comm Course not experiencing the wins others were having. During a break I looked at a grade chart for the first time and was fascinated by it especially Dianetics through GR IV Expanded on the right side. The course super noticed me reading the chart and asked if I had questions. I had plenty, too much for him to answer so he arranged for an HGC auditor to help me. This auditor was well trained and spent about 3 hours answering my questions and explaining the grade chart. I was fascinated and wanted auditing right away.
- 3. Were there problems in your life that you thought
scientology would address?
- Yes of course. Freedom from the harmful effects of drugs. Introversion. No immediate problem just typical stuff but I really wanted to achieve the EP's of the lower grade chart. The upper levels did not interest or indicate to me
- 4. Did you see, experience, or hear about things that didn't
seem right while you were in the Church of Scientology? What were
they, and what convinced you to set aside your feelings?
- Are you kidding? With over 30 years experience as staff and public there's plenty. For me it boiled down to a few things: 1) Not being able to communicate certain thoughts, questions, doubts and so on about the Church. To do so was trouble at some point. I've had KR's written on me 10 years or more after the fact of saying something 'unacceptable' to a fellow Scngist. 2) The countless, constant and obvious lies from Management. 3) Seeing the tech altered and changed over the years and with every change invalidation for those that actually studied and applied the previous versions of tech with good results. 4) The cyclical purging a declares of long time Scngists who could not possibly be SP's based on their stats. 5) The value of $ over anything or anyone... etc... Like everyone else I had to do one hell of a lot of justifying and rationalizing to remain in the group.
- 5. Why did you choose to stay in the Church of
- Because subjectively I experienced some real and lasting gains on the lower levels and obectively I've witnessed similar gains in others. These were enough for me to go on hoping for things to change in the Church. This along with the fact that most if not all your friends and allies are church members and as a group cut off from the rest of society makes it easy to to lie to yourself. Boils down to a lack of integrity and being a chicken shit.
- 6. Were you staff or public? If staff, was it at a mission or
an org? Were you ever in the Sea Org or OSA? Which unit? If not on
staff, did you ever volunteer to 'help out'?
- Staff for about 10 years. CL IV org level and G.O.
- 7. Why did you leave the Church of Scientology? Was there a
- No final straw, more like a gradually awakening and growing some balls. I came to accept what I was seeing and it added up to the Organization being one of the most suppressive groups to ever exist. However, despite it all, I don't have the regrets or animosity some seem to have. There were some great times and adventures during this part of my life and I met some of the best people I've ever known. Come to think of it that's my one regret. I've lost touch with some of my very best friends who exited or were kicked out before I came to my senses.
- 8. Do you think the Church of Scientology needs to change some
of its practices? If so, what should be changed? How did those
practices affect your life?
- Of course. Disconnection. Attacks on people that are all out of proportion. How about a little tolerance with any outside entity. Prices that are affordable to the average person. Mild ethics and effective ethics. Pay the staff a living wage with some health benefits. Stop the senseless litigation. Good treatment of children. How about being truthful. And so on....
- 9. If the items you listed in the previous question were
changed, would you consider rejoining or staying in the Church of
Scientology? If so, why?
- No because the whole thing is based mostly on lies and the changes would have to be so great that it would not be called the Church of Scientology. Also, I've discovered that the gains I've experienced can be achieved in other ways. I know several people who are spiritually aware and live decent heathy lives and have never had contact with the Church of Scientology.
- 10. Any additional comments you would like to make?
- Scientology is what it is. Most members choose to belong at least at first. If you can pay the price and you get what is promised thats fine by me. But I suspect most members are not hard core fanatics. These members are caught up in the trap like we all were. I think these folks know who they are and to them I'd suggest they apply the precept in 'The Way To Happiness' Look and see what you see not what someone tells you that you see. Or whatever the precept says. It's good basic advice. I wish I had followed it earlier. Best Regards, E.P.