Friday, 14th September, 2007 01:45:57am
Name or Alias:
Training and/or processing level:
enough OT to be dangerous
Org or location:
Phoenix, Los Angeles, others
Time involved in the Church of Scientology:
Recommended Website - operation clambake
- 1. How did you first become acquainted with the Church of
- Mission Lecture, DMSMH, Creation of Human Ability
- 2. What initially appealed to you about scientology?
- Friendly people, promise of getting my life under my control,
increasing my 'abilities' (what they called OT)
auditor's code (they sure don't adhere to it!)
tolerance of other's values (a TOTAL lie it turns out)
- 3. Were there problems in your life that you thought
scientology would address?
- relationships, understanding chronic sadness, make more money
- 4. Did you see, experience, or hear about things that didn't
seem right while you were in the Church of Scientology? What were
they, and what convinced you to set aside your feelings?
- 1.OT's did NOT have capabilities stated by Hubbard.
2.OT3 was obviously bullcrap, that was Ron Hubbard's case, nobody elses! Auditing Body Thetans will drive a being down to below death very quickly. Its very dangerous for you and your body (easy to mess up the DNA and get cancer or worse)
By the time you are OTII you should be able to just get behind your body, and flow love at it to clean it up, no BTs, no bull.
Once you are driven low from auditing these things, a clever device by Ron takes your power...forget being OT after that.
3.Staff lived in squalor and disorganization (a key to the whole mess)
4.Every possible thing was done to stop people from attaining REAL OT levels or getting REAL case gain (grades etc)
5. Extreme evaluation and invalidation by ASHO/AO auditors
6. Very low personal ethics of staff members.
7. Declaring those who really were helping people SP.
8. Breaking up families and relationships (3d over 2d)
9. SO taking over Missions to get rid of old timers
10.The Sea Org was a criminal organization with no real value.
11.Constant talk about SP's and enemies, yet there were none. (Paranoid) The cult was in treason! (still IS) constantly shoot themselves in the foot, so to speak.
I was able to justify being a part of this as it was 'helping' people. I realized eventually that the help was minor to the hurt they were experiencing in the end.
- 5. Why did you choose to stay in the Church of
- Thought I had to stay long enough to achieve my personal goals.
I knew it was dangerous for my mental health, but thought I could live with it awhile. I did get gains, but not exactly the result promised, nonetheless, enough for me to keep going.
- 6. Were you staff or public? If staff, was it at a mission or
an org? Were you ever in the Sea Org or OSA? Which unit? If not on
staff, did you ever volunteer to 'help out'?
- Public ONLY. Missions and Orgs in LA area, Phoenix, other places I won't disclose
- 7. Why did you leave the Church of Scientology? Was there a
- Yes, the government raids which were so obviously evil got me thinking, but it took many more years to actually break away. Many thousands of hours of additional auditing. Lots of money.
I realized their high level of betrayal as an organization. This is NOT a Church. There is only a money machine.
- 8. Do you think the Church of Scientology needs to change some
of its practices? If so, what should be changed? How did those
practices affect your life?
- It cannot change. Its based on lies from a Satan worshiper, who only cared about power and money, and was trying to prove he was of some value since his parents didn't want him.
The ethics 'tech' is insane. Greatest good for greatest nr of dynamics is crap. Disband the Sea Org. its evil. Of course OSA should be prosecuted by the government and every one of them hanged!
No, thats too easy on them...let them study Scientology...that will hang them much more effectively.
- 9. If the items you listed in the previous question were
changed, would you consider rejoining or staying in the Church of
Scientology? If so, why?
- Never in a 'billion years'
- 10. Any additional comments you would like to make?
- This is an insidious, dangerous cult, pure and simple. I got hoodwinked like everyone else, and am still trying to recover. My mind after 30+ years is still screwed up, my emotions are 'unusual', and my viewpoint of life is not totally healthy. So if anyone is reading this, please avoid Scientology. Consider it a plague on the planet. Its just plain EVIL.