Saturday, 4th May, 2002 09:08:27am
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Recommended Website - Ron the War Hero
- 1. How did you first become acquainted with the Church of
- A family member had me buy Dianetics, I read it and liked it. I took the Ups and Downs in Life course and saw that there were some fundamental truths being discussed that interested me greatly.
- 2. What initially appealed to you about scientology?
- That it is the 'thinking man's' religion. You weren't to use faith or belief, you were to objectively see what is true. That there were tools to use in life that bridged spiritual philosophy with nuts and bolts reality; in essence, practical spirituality. Specifically, I was actively looking for a group of people who put into action Jesus's declaration: 'If two or more of you would command that the mountain jump into the sea, it would have no choice but to do so.' Not actual quote, but that story. I was looking for people who put spiritual laws to work and did powerful things to change the lives of fellow Man.
- 3. Were there problems in your life that you thought
scientology would address?
- I was more interested in spiritual power, but I was sold into doing things for myself via Scn, yes. Using admin tech in business was one, discovering evil people in life who kept others from being powerful was another.
- 4. Did you see, experience, or hear about things that didn't
seem right while you were in the Church of Scientology? What were
they, and what convinced you to set aside your feelings?
- God, yes! A Scn reg berating a fellow parishoner to 2nd mortgage his Grandmother's house to buy services - loud and screaming commands and intimidations! The OT8 who tried (and failed) to set me up with a fello parishoner for his sexual fulfillment. The upper level operatives who came in and wrecked any little program or plan of operation that was working for outrageous unworkable programs, those IAS briefings where you couldn't leave till you gave money, and that was just in my early days... there are many many more in the years to follow. But I stayed in because I was told that I would understand it all later, as I moved up the bridge and took more courses. I was told that some poeple in Scn do bad things and they will be corrected. I fell for that.
- 5. Why did you choose to stay in the Church of
- There was more to learn, and I would understand it all after more training and processing. And, I wanted to help save the world from destruction, and Scientology was the way. I wanted to empower my friends and family, community and beyond.
- 6. Were you staff or public? If staff, was it at a mission or
an org? Were you ever in the Sea Org or OSA? Which unit? If not on
staff, did you ever volunteer to 'help out'?
- Both staff and public.
- 7. Why did you leave the Church of Scientology? Was there a
- It all came crashing down one day. I got a call from a Scn celebrity wanting me to donate money and time to protest against France's impending ousting of Scn from their country. I was asked to protest in Paris. When I tried to discuss with her the issues surrounding this debacle, this celeb was frightfully unaware of the actual facts surrounding the situation. In response to my questioning, she blasted me for being an enemy of the church. I was devastated! I was in terror of being declared an SP and being so horribly misunderstood. For the next several days my Scn valence crumbled around me, and I realized how brainwashed I'd been. Then I started going to websites about Scn and it blew me away! Hubbard died insane and with psych drugs in his body! Not just at his death for a little relief - he was a drug addict! He was a criminal! Ron the War Hero - all lies! His personal bio - all lies! Boy oh boy, what this did to me! It's taken many months and many websites to really get hold of how brainwashed I'd been.
- 8. Do you think the Church of Scientology needs to change some
of its practices? If so, what should be changed? How did those
practices affect your life?
- There is no fix for Scientology. It cannot go back to the grass roots of the early days when there was some 'help' for others in it. It's organized, copywrighted, trademarked and the dye is cast, it's future sealed. It is just another fanatic religion on the face of the earth.
- 9. If the items you listed in the previous question were
changed, would you consider rejoining or staying in the Church of
Scientology? If so, why?
- No. It really cannot return to anything innocent, if in fact it ever was innocent. And, once you're in, you face this threat of being 'fair-gamed' if you leave. Why would I want to be blackmailed like that - in the name of freedom, especially? Why would anyone submit themselves to the possibility, unless they had lost their self determinism, their rationality, their control of their own minds?
- 10. Any additional comments you would like to make?
- I warn others. Although in the beginning, it is about personal assessment, later it becomes something else. It becomes being indoctrinated more and more into Scn and it's services - buying them and promoting them, giving your life, your family, your money - everything to them.
Listen and learn all you like, but keep your own mind.
I reccommend the website: Ron the War Hero