Scientology - Through the Door

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Tuesday, 24th July, 2007 07:49:51pm

Name or Alias: disengaged
Training and/or processing level: class 6, OT7
Org or location: all over
Time involved in the Church of Scientology: 25 years
Recommended Website - n/a
1. How did you first become acquainted with the Church of Scientology?
In the 1950's, there was no COS yet. There were individual auditors, and in some cities, early versions of an official center (HASI or Hubbard Assoc of Sc Intl). A friend gave me some auditing (I accepted because he was handsome). I did have an interesting insight during a session, and so read books (DMSMH and Dianetics 55, and Sc 8-8008), and joined another field group and had group processing. It was all quite affordable then, and the motto was 'If it is not fun, it is not Scientology'. It was fun then!

2. What initially appealed to you about scientology?
The people were positive and friendly, and I could see goals in Scientogy that appealed to me. I wanted to help people too. During one of the inexpensive group auditing sessions I had a tremendous realisation that I was not a body, I was a being separate from the body! That increased awareness was exhilerating.

3. Were there problems in your life that you thought scientology would address?
Yes, my level of communication was terrible, needed to improve, and I needed to be more sure of myself.

4. Did you see, experience, or hear about things that didn't seem right while you were in the Church of Scientology? What were they, and what convinced you to set aside your feelings?
Over the years, gradually things were reported that did not seem right - at one time, people attending course or on staff at the Royal Scottsman, were punished by being thrown overboard. LRH was on the ship, so I assume it was his order. I couldn't swim, so I stayed away during those scary years. When one is in the field, one is not as aware of dreadful things going on, so it was when I went to LA and was on course that too many things came to light that I could not be part of, such as seeing how the staff children were housed, with insuffiecient care, and hardly ever seeing their overly busy parents. I audited a staff member who was desparate tp see her child, but she could not afford to buy tires for her car to drive and see him at lunch or dinner time, and if she took the bus, she would not get back in time for roll-call, so she did not see him for a week or more at a time. Then there were the 14-17 year old SO members who were theoretically getting schooled, but actually could not take the time for classes because they had to keep their stats up or be in trouble. They were frequently up half the night because of stats. LRH's own children had good educations, how could he allow these kids to be so used and abused?

5. Why did you choose to stay in the Church of Scientology?
I stayed in for 25 years because I did have gains most of the time, and I wanted the same for my family, and to 'clear the planet' As prices became more and more astronomical, I realised that clearing the planet was no longer the goal - money and power were the new goals. Only the super rich can afford the current 'bridge'

6. Were you staff or public? If staff, was it at a mission or an org? Were you ever in the Sea Org or OSA? Which unit? If not on staff, did you ever volunteer to 'help out'?
In a HASI for a few years, then involved with missions in the 70's. In the late 70s or early 80's these missions were brutally disintegrated by actions of the church. Most (all?) of these early mission holders, who tried to correct the outnesses in the church, finally gave up and left, because as soon as one criticises the 'church' one gets declared and then friends etc have to disconnect, and they would run out of money since the church had taken over their missions, so they no longer had a means of livelihood, and had to take up other work. I now think that whoever was running the church then, wanted these high powered old timer mission holders out of the way, to make way for the 'New Order'. The Old timers had known LRH personally, so may have been considered too knowledgeable and threatening to allow to stay in the game.

7. Why did you leave the Church of Scientology? Was there a "final straw"?
The final straw came after I saw the carnage of the dissolution of the Mission Holders in the early 80's, and saw staff scraping along on a few dollars a week while the orgs took in hundreds of thousands. I also saw some families disrupted by Sea Org recruitment. Also saw how some of the PR was not true. In the early days, adhering to the dynamics was important, but in the SO, 1st and 2nd dynamics cannot survive. Therefore, according to earlier teaching in 'The Science of Survival', when 1st and 2nd are not OK, 3rd and 4th will be out. and so it is in the SO. The ARC triangle used to be important in the early days, and we would see how we could improve A by bringing up the other 2 sides of the triangle, and bring up R by bringing up A and C, and so on. In later years, I would hear staff members yelling, and wonder when the ARC triangle left Scientology. I guess LRH's final exit being so lied about added to the final straw(s).

8. Do you think the Church of Scientology needs to change some of its practices? If so, what should be changed? How did those practices affect your life?
There is so much that needs to be changed, I don't know if it is possible. It would have to be totally revamped, starting with the Sea org.

9. If the items you listed in the previous question were changed, would you consider rejoining or staying in the Church of Scientology? If so, why?
No. Once burned, twice shy. Also, I am in the 'Twilight' of my life.

10. Any additional comments you would like to make?
People who give up other things in their life to go and work in an org, mission or sea org, need to be treated with respect, need to have a living wage, need to have time for family and other pursuits, and above all, should not be lied to. One cannot respect an organisation whose officers lie to them.

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