Sunday, 10th December, 2006 11:42:19pm
Name or Alias:
Training and/or processing level:
Org or location:
several class 5 orgs, Flag
Time involved in the Church of Scientology:
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- 1. How did you first become acquainted with the Church of
- a pyschologist from california
- 2. What initially appealed to you about scientology?
- First book I read, The Original Thesis. LRH's writing helped me wake up.
- 3. Were there problems in your life that you thought
scientology would address?
- Some reg told me long ago it would help me in my profession.
- 4. Did you see, experience, or hear about things that didn't
seem right while you were in the Church of Scientology? What were
they, and what convinced you to set aside your feelings?
- Over the period of 30 years as a public I witnessed and was subjected to heavy pushing from regs for $$ when it was clear to me they weren't really concerned about ME. The cannabilizing of the churches ever dwindling public for 'another' donation by thursday at 2:00. It was always about the money. The constant pressure to always make advance payments for future services. Honestly, I never met a reg who gave a damn whether or not making a donation would cause financial harm or ruin.
The Church needs to walk the walk and talk the talk regarding pan-determinism, and caring about people in general. I've known a staff member on OT7 who openly regarded some of thier public with disdain and contempt, and 'not worth it'
The practice of disconnection,and labeling MANY good people SUPPRESSIVES is flat out destructive and insane. I've seen many good people get hit for trying to call attention to out tech or other situations, only to suffer themselves.
Breaking up families will eventually bite Scientology in the ass. Keep making more enemies, your bad PR is catching up to you and you will be engulfed in a sea of contempt from the world at large. The Pyschs are winning and your helping them by giving them ammunition.
I beleive that there are many many good people in Scientology who are honestly trying to help, and beleive that they are.
And factually, for me, I recieved good help from many tech terminals who were off the money lines and were not PTS to management. But there is a suppressive element in levels higher up in Int Management that are ruining the game and Scientology's PR on this planet.
I beleive that may staff are under termendous pressure and are dramatizing the characteristics of those they are PTs to.
I see this among many of my fellow Scientologists. It's sad to see so many people who have been sold a pack of lies for so long. THINK FOR YOURSELVES! IF YOUR DOING DOUBT, GET ALL THE DATA BASED ON RESEARCH THATS NOT BIASED!
Scientology's policys and practices are creating more enemies daily. Peoples families are being destroyed based on directives being made that are not on policy or are arbitrary to policy.
Writing it up dosen't help. The system is broken and infected.
Young staff members with little or no life experience are robotically carrying out orders from seniors or uplines that they have no reality about.
The VM's are using thier good works as a PR tool firstly, not to degrade the help they do render-but it's a secondary reason for being there.
THE PRICES ARE SUPPRESSIVE. Clear the planet? Wake up Scientologists! If it was that urgent to CLEAR the planet, don't you think it would behoove everyone to open the floodgates?
It's about the money.
- 5. Why did you choose to stay in the Church of
- For years I had tacitly agreed that the outpoints where justified somehow, and that if I made it up the bridge I would understand better why the things that felt wrong to me where actually 'okay'. Also, I bought the lie that I needed auditing in order to be 'okay' or 'trust my self' or my perceptions.
- 6. Were you staff or public? If staff, was it at a mission or
an org? Were you ever in the Sea Org or OSA? Which unit? If not on
staff, did you ever volunteer to 'help out'?
- I refuse to give OSA any data about me that could incriminate me.
- 7. Why did you leave the Church of Scientology? Was there a
- I refuse to give OSA any data or tips about me that could incriminate me or my friends or family. (I hope all you fanatics eventually get declared yourself and lose your family and friends and land on the street with no REAL LIFE skills, no retirement, and no credibility. paybacks a bitch!)
- 8. Do you think the Church of Scientology needs to change some
of its practices? If so, what should be changed? How did those
practices affect your life?
- The Church needs to return to an earlier period when it was fun to be a Scientologist, and there were freespirit, uptone and critical thinking bright beings running the show.
This will never happen as DM and his crew of nutjobs have run it into the ground.
Flag is touted as the mecca of technical perfection, yet I have witnessed and heard about more violations of standard tech than anywhere else.
- 9. If the items you listed in the previous question were
changed, would you consider rejoining or staying in the Church of
Scientology? If so, why?
- Yes I'd stay. But I've been around long enough to know when to say 'enough' Scientology, congratulations! You've made a new enemy. And to those who tried to help avert my departure, I say thanks for trying but now YOU need to take a look.
- 10. Any additional comments you would like to make?
- I have made a committment to inform as many other Scientologists as I can to inform themselves of the real story which is availiable on the internet. I persisted through many urges to 'get off the internet' and not beleive It, or turn my head because it was easier to tell myself it just wasen't true.
But I hung in there and kept reading until I was laughing and was uptone again. I have blown tons of charge reading articles written by others who have seen the same outpoints, and the TRUTH does blow the lies away. This action of doing internet research for the last week has DE-PTS'ed me from the REAL SP's. They ARE IN THE CHURCH!
I feel great.