Scientology - Through the Door

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Sunday, 8th October, 2006 03:39:18am

Name or Alias: GK
Training and/or processing level: Product 1
Org or location: Western United States
Time involved in the Church of Scientology: 6 years
Recommended Website - www.scientology.org
1. How did you first become acquainted with the Church of Scientology?
Someone came to my door and sold me a Dianetics book, along with it came a personality test. I filled out the personality test, and about a week later I was called to come into the org, and get my results which I did.

2. What initially appealed to you about scientology?
At the time I moved to a new place, new job, no friends, fairly broke, I also just recently quit doing a lot of drugs at that time, overall I was kind of depressed. The course I took seemed to have some answers, and it was only about 30 dollars, so I decided to give it a try, and see if it would help me. It did in my opinion I felt more confident, happy, kind of a renewed viewpoint in life in general.

3. Were there problems in your life that you thought scientology would address?
As stated above, I thought I had lots of problems, I was making a fresh start in life, and mainly was very lonely. The church seemed to have some great people in it, and honestly I was hoping to make some friends, and maybe make me better financially, and happier. Which I am in debate if it was fully the church, and the course, but I know it had a fairly big hand in it.

4. Did you see, experience, or hear about things that didn't seem right while you were in the Church of Scientology? What were they, and what convinced you to set aside your feelings?
Poor pay for staff, long working hours, staff not getting their training, or auditing, other peoples cases, and ethics situations are talked about freely, even joked about. This is why people are in Scientology in the first place to get help, not to spill their guts to an MAA, or an auditor, and have 1/2 the base know that they are PTS to their mom or something. My feelings were basically set aside, becuase I felt in the big picture, the ultimate goal was a cleared planet, and I felt that things would change eventually.

5. Why did you choose to stay in the Church of Scientology?
I believed in the tech, I experienced great wins with auditing, sec checking, and training. I felt a sense of security being in the church, such as I will never go hungry, or homeless.

6. Were you staff or public? If staff, was it at a mission or an org? Were you ever in the Sea Org or OSA? Which unit? If not on staff, did you ever volunteer to 'help out'?
All of the above.

7. Why did you leave the Church of Scientology? Was there a "final straw"?
When I was in the SO, my personal life was in ruins, meaning my bills, family, etc. I was not happy about this. I wasnt getting up the bridge, or training I wanted. I had other dreams in life I wanted to pursue. To get out though I told the MAA I had taken PCP and lied about it to get in. It wasnt true, but it got me on the fastrak to get out, and start my life over.

8. Do you think the Church of Scientology needs to change some of its practices? If so, what should be changed? How did those practices affect your life?
Well to start off, they need to change the recruitment practice onto staff. I realize the staff is very overworked, underpaid, etc. I believe that the reason recruitment is pushed extremely hard, is to help the existing staff members take the load off of them. But if someone signs up, I find its usually not on a standard Project Prepare, mainly they are pushed into routing on Thursday before 2, without regard to the person they are recruiting. When I joined staff, I joined part time, becuase I had another job, I also needed a CSW from uplines to join, once that became approved, I got endless phonecalls to come in and route on, Finally after working a 16 hour day, getting off at 9 in the morning on a Thursday, I was told to just come in and route in, then I can go, I took the hour drive to the org from where I had my other job, and routed on, and after doing the route on, I still had to do some work. I was kind of upset, and I ended up blowing a week later becuase of many outpoints in my cycle though I got recovered. My Sea Org recruitment cycle was even worse. I was so excited and honored about being recruited by the SO, but I needed alot of things to take care of before I joined. I even did a project prepare that night. But that was unnacceptable to the recruiters, this was on a Sunday when I signed up, on Monday the recruiter called me and said I need to be on the EPF Thursday, no fail. I can go into details, but I did arrive on Thursday, with the help of another recruiter from the SO who flew up to make sure I arrived, but...Not without a price, I really upset my family, I got tabbed with a 1500 dollar bill from my apartment complex for breaking the lease, and charged for moving my furniture out, I burned alot of bridges at my old company, destroyed friendships, its really a painful thing to write about or talk about. If I only did a Project Prepare, and took care of the things I wanted to do, I would probably still be in the SO today.
I think the RPF needs to be treated better, to look at them, makes me very Sad. Very malnourished, overworked, underpaid, dirty, and they are on it for years. Once I went to the bathroom, and there was a line of other RPFers, I stood in line, and they wanted me to go to the front. I pretty much told the lady, to be my guest. They are human also, and shouldnt have to go to the back of the line for anyone especially to take a leak.
They need to stop recruiting young kids to join staff, let them make their own decisions about life when they are older. I was fairly amazed to see how many people joined young, and left, only to find out that they cant make it on their own, or get a real job, etc. I am not sure how many are surviving well, but I saw many ex-so members in the field, just wasting their days away doing nothing when they got out with no real direction in life, becuase they had no skills otherwise, many of them were very uneducated.
Marriages, while in the Sea Org it should be promoted to think about it first or get to know the person prior to making commitments. I was amazed how many divorces there are in the SO. Most people I think get married just for the 2D berthing. My 2D asked me to marry her, after the 2nd day we were dating, I declined, I had to much of a WOG viewpoint on that, and never got married, our relationship fell apart about 2 months after that, I also see young kids 16 year olds getting married, it was out of control in my opinion.
Berthing, ugh... My room had 8 grown men in it, in a room probably made for 1 3 showers for one floor, although the next floor down had quite a few, many times the showers were broken though, and filled to the brim. I had about 1 drawer for all my belongings, and some hang up stuff, I did have a nice view of downtown LA though. I could go on but the biggest thing is they need to provide better berthing areas for their staff.
I am not sure where they get the idea that all night all hands with no sleep, and lots of yelling, will get things done, when its been proven, time an time again, plenty of rest, brings more productive numbers, and less mistakes, then working through all hours of the night, to get a project done.
The church also should focus less on stats, and more about caring about the public. People go there to get enlightened, get help with their issues in life, etc. But the staff for the most part treats them like numbers, and they do shady things to get those numbers, many overtly without regard to the public, just to stay out of ethics trouble, I think alot more people would come to events, be on service more, if they werent being regged for everything, or being recruited all the time. I think things are changing, but not that much.
Security, why does the most ethical people on the planet need to be watched so tightly, why cant people make the best decisions for themselves? And why cant you drive your own car if you are in lower conditions but completely legal to drive? Ughh... I can go on.
I was in the US military and honestly, people of higher rank, etc. granted me more 'beingness' in the military then in the Sea Org. Even in the corporate 'wog world' Vice Presidents, high managers, etc. treat me with more respect then I ever got in the Sea Org from management. Most of the time, I felt like I was completely ignored. Not all the time, but most of the time. There were a few execs who were nice and would smile at you but honestly it was rare.
Lastly as mentioned before, peoples cases should be between, the auditor, c/s, just the terminals involved. Specifics about someone should not leak out, to 1/2 the org.
Oh, and one other thing, that cross order policy needs to stop being misenterpreted all the time!!! I got sick of doing one thing and then being told I am being cross ordered, then doing something else, and being told I am cross-ordered, it was a never ending cycle. When I was in the sea org, it seemed like that policy was used against me so many times, everyone had their own interpretations of it, comm-evs threatened on me, lower conditions, etc, all I wanted to do was be productive, and help out as much as I can, on where I was needed the most. I know I wasnt the only one that happened to.


9. If the items you listed in the previous question were changed, would you consider rejoining or staying in the Church of Scientology? If so, why?
I would definetely rejoin. I think the tech works, and some of the most greatest, dynamic people I met were Scientologists. I think right now the church does not follow LRH policy to the T. Thats the biggest problem. Most of the things listed above have policies concerning those issues that are written above, however for whatever reason, policy is not as enforced on as much as it should be.It seems to get enforced only when its used to make the staff members life harder.

10. Any additional comments you would like to make?
I believe in the overall picture the church's intentions are good. I believe alot of the things posted on anti-scn are lies, by disgruntled ex-members, but some of the things are probably very true as I have experienced simalar things while on staff. I am undecided if I should go ahead and continue on with my conditions for leaving the SO and get into good standing again. Hence, the reason why I am reading all these sites, but if you are reading these interviews to make a choice about Scientology, and are new, my recommendation is read a couple books, try to apply the data , and find out if its right for you. I know that Scientology is not for everyone, and I know that being on staff is not for everyone, I am a great example, but for some people it is, and for some people my remarks may not be that big of a deal to them. Also remember that although, freedom of speech is one of the United State's most revered right, remember Freedom of Religion is also. Scientology is a religion, and has every right to practice as one, and although people can complain about cost, etc. The main goal of the religion is to make our planet a better place to live. All of that higher level stuff is such a factually a small part of the religion, critics seem to point at the bad experiences of others, rather than the many successes it has brought. It has brought far more successes than bringing people to the brink of homelessness. In summary yes there are things that need to be fixed, or changed, but there are many great facets about Scientology that may help you out in life.

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