Thursday, 10th August, 2006 04:54:16pm
Name or Alias:
Training and/or processing level:
OT 5. class 4, SP/PTS detection, HPE and I crse etc
Org or location:
Time involved in the Church of Scientology:
1975- 1986 COSMOD. Sacramento Org. ASHO and AOLA in LA Calif. Flub Land base in Clearwater Florida 1982-1986
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- 1. How did you first become acquainted with the Church of
- Met Polly in Sacramento, working her way though UC Davis, physics major, she recommended 'Student Hat' .
Went to the cosmod mission on R street, in sacramento, was immediately suspicious..but was slowly compromised. At one point the cult sent a stunning red headed staff babe to move in with me, asked if she could sleep on the floor.
- 2. What initially appealed to you about scientology?
- The lies about what a great man Hubbard was. The references from many professionals involved (virtually all ex members now). The workability of some of the lower level processes. ARC Straight wire, life repair etc. I was not impressed with Dianetics, much of the bogus science. or insane 'ethics'.. or ruthless hard sell recruiting tactics.
But compromised myself promising... I would finish the current course and quit.. the next course was just a small step ... always believing the bogus success stories of the members (now mostly gone and admitting those were short term wins at best, and that disaster was the general long term result).
- 3. Were there problems in your life that you thought
scientology would address?
I thought I was doing fine... the cult members probed for 'ruins'.. I initially came in order to get to know Polly better and for the 'student hat'... I wanted to learn to study more effectively.
- 4. Did you see, experience, or hear about things that didn't
seem right while you were in the Church of Scientology? What were
they, and what convinced you to set aside your feelings?
- YES...every day. Dozens of examples. Registraction (asking for money) while pulled off the initial 'training routines'..(self hypnotic) when one was vulnerable.)
Use of obvious hucksters as registrars at the mission, not as bad as at the orgs... those were true believers.
Bogus ethics cycles.
Hard sell. Staff cynical and derogatory about the public.. no call for that, it doesnt align with a legitimate operation.
More than a few of the upper level staff demonstrating vicious attitudes, and making judgements that were unwarrented by the facts...at the time I didnt know about all the insanity regarding the 'space alien invasion'... these idiots would assume apparently that one was one of the invaders if you voiced any questions about 'the technology'
- 5. Why did you choose to stay in the Church of
- The lower level 'processes' worked... I figured the insanity at upper levels was my problem, that I was missing something. but since I had prepaid I finished .. then as it turns out doing worse than before... so after I recovered would be told that there were errors on that level, fixed now, and to come in for a review and repair... I fell for that a few times.
I had business associates involved as well... another incentive to stay in 'good standing'. Hubbards policy made it clear that scientologists were the creme de la creme of life on earth and that the reason one is upset is because of upset at the faults and degradeness of 'wogs'... i became hyper critical of others, making myself and my gross errors and nasty personality right, and otherw wrong... scientology provided the perfect justification for that fatal error.
- 6. Were you staff or public? If staff, was it at a mission or
an org? Were you ever in the Sea Org or OSA? Which unit? If not on
staff, did you ever volunteer to 'help out'?
- Public, never staff.
- 7. Why did you leave the Church of Scientology? Was there a
- A huge ugly blubbery ethics Officer, named Bonnie Elliot booted me off the the Flag land base for asking why their pricing was was far off policy.... but not before reverse processing me in the most ruthless fashion imaginable..It took 5 years to partially recover. (read my folder items back to me in reverse screaming accuastions..ome example) its been 20 years now, I think I'm recovered. But then I thought that 5 years ago also. These people create massive damage in those who get involved.
- 8. Do you think the Church of Scientology needs to change some
of its practices? If so, what should be changed? How did those
practices affect your life?
- Hubbards original premise, 'ego supreme' you might say, and destroying anyone that doesn't agree is criminal to the core and fatally flawed...(he got that from is left hand path satanic indocroctination well documented on the web..the satanic aspect is well masked though at lower levels, only at 'upper levels' does Hubbard let it slip). its the kiss of death to anyone that swallows that hook...I did.. I became the nastiest bastard in LA for a decade... recovery has taken that long as well..
the rest of the disaster springs from that.
It cannot be salvaged for that reason...and now because of the massive criminal organization it has become, it *can't come clean, if they do, most management will be sent to prison.. the civil law suits would be and may well end up being in the billions.
- 9. If the items you listed in the previous question were
changed, would you consider rejoining or staying in the Church of
Scientology? If so, why?
- Not the slightest chance of a snowball in hell.
- 10. Any additional comments you would like to make?
- Stay away from the criminal cult of scientology... warn others away. Point out that its lower level ego appeal bait WORKS great...but the spring steel trap of lies will cut you half..as the scum bleeds you for every last dime, all that you can borrow, and all of your possessions.
Phil Scott (real name, USA, west coast)