Sunday, 31st March, 2002 06:39:10pm
Name or Alias:
Training and/or processing level:
Org or location:
Atlanta, Flag and Celebrity Center, Int.
Time involved in the Church of Scientology:
Recommended Website - www.lisatrust.net
- 1. How did you first become acquainted with the Church of
- I came involved through a psychic. She thought it would help me to see my potential. My husband David Cook, became involved through a front group, called Sterling Management out in Glendale, California.
In the Registrar course, which anyone just starting in Scientology, will be meeting a registrar, one learns that Scientology appears to handle "your" problem. Truth is, in that course, the registrar is taught that no matter what the public (new person) says you have the answer to it, no matter what. So essentially, you are really being sold something, no different from a car etc. Don't be fooled, these people are trained to take money and do it with a smile on their face. I was trained to do this and found it hypocritical so never was able to use the information that I was expensively paid for.
- 2. What initially appealed to you about scientology?
- That is was supposedly different from a 'religion' in that one could think for themselves and reach their full potential. That was a front, essentially, once you delve into the church it becomes like a web one gets caught in and you lose your ability to rationally think for yourself, make decisions that are best for you and your family. Once in the church, you are expected to think of the church first, even if that means giving up your family, your life, your income and your free thinking. It is a cult and never forget it. As an attorney, I realized it 5 years ago but had gotten so involved that I knew I would lose my husband and son if I left. I eventually did leave and have temporarily lost my son. During that five years though, my husband came to see the truth of the deception and left on his own. Our lives are so much better now. Everything we ever wanted came into fruitation once we left, which tells you alot. Even our marriage got better, our family life except for our son. Everything is better, what can I say!!!
- 3. Were there problems in your life that you thought
scientology would address?
- Everyone around me saw me as having great abilities but I didn't see my own strengths. I thought this church would give me those abilities or self confidence. What is gave me was the loss of nearly a million dollars, false doctrine, lies and the loss of my son who is so mind controlled and brain washed he can no longer think for himself. The church loves to get the 'young' ones as they are easily influenced even though the young don't think they are, the church has a 'way' of handling them. Just read 'Cults in Our Midsts by Margaret Singer and other books on cults and the church fits the definition of a cult straight down the line. The church is a cult and loves to pretend it isn't. Just read and find out, that is the one thing you won't get to do if you join the church, that is read and find out the truth for yourself. Once in, they control what you do and they do this control by confessionals that cost thousands of dollars. And by the way, anything free up front won't be free for long.
- 4. Did you see, experience, or hear about things that didn't
seem right while you were in the Church of Scientology? What were
they, and what convinced you to set aside your feelings?
- The wrongs of this church.
1. The loss of friends and family members if you chose to leave. It isn't like the methodist church where you just decide to leave. You are caught in their web and you lose your family.
2. Poor living conditions for staff members who join the Sea Organization, below poverty or close to it. No money and no critical thinking skills. Supposedly LRH said to think for yourself, but once in, you think like the management. The poor staff are so mind controlled, some don't even know what is happening. I know as I was in for 10 years and it took 5 to figure it out.
LRH talks about that there are no absolutes yet once you are in you find out differently. He then contradicts himself and says that All illness comes from a PTS condition, that is an absolute. In the initial study course, he again states an absolute, that if one gives up a study it is because of a misunderstood word, always. So throughout my experience in this cult, I found that LRH wrote what he needed, (or someone wrote what they needed) to either create more money or create more upset, as the contradiction created upset and you the public were always at fault, the church never was. The church never takes responsibility, it is always "your" bad deed that brought on "their" mistake, but of course it was your mistake otherwise you would not have it in your life.
- 5. Why did you choose to stay in the Church of
- Because my son and husband were in and I didn't want to lose them. I will get my son back as I know that he won't stay 'drugged' for long. Most SO members don't stay in for long. Averge time in a cult is 5 to 10 years.
- 6. Were you staff or public? If staff, was it at a mission or
an org? Were you ever in the Sea Org or OSA? Which unit? If not on
staff, did you ever volunteer to 'help out'?
- I was a public. I saw the conditions that the staff lived and worked under and I liked nice things too much. My son George Ford is still in the SO and has not spoken to me but he is still in connection with me in his own special way. Some things I still can't discuss in protection of his well being. Remember this church has killed their parishioners, let's never forget Lisa McPherson and others who have suffered greatly through death due to their practices, as I have observed.
- 7. Why did you leave the Church of Scientology? Was there a
- Yes, the final straw was that I couldn't take the control. I refused to be told how to think, when to think, how to live my life, what was ethical and right and what wasn't. At the time I left, I didn't care if I lost my husband or not as I refused to live like a cult member anymore, even though I wasn't aware of how influenced I was until I left, by then though, I had been heavily influenced. But as any intelligent person will say, the light went on and I left.
On September 11, we experienced the tragedy. I was down at Flag, one of the churches. I was told that I had to do something to help the victims, so I told them I would give blood and help them in my own way, like prayer, I immediately got in trouble and was told I had to either help the church by recruiting but that just helping the victims without helping the church was not acceptable, I left the next day. ALWAYS BE CAREFUL WHEN A CHURCH HAS THE ONLY WAY AND WON'T LISTEN TO ANYTHING ELSE. Also, be aware that it appears that LRH got a lot of his data from Napoleon Hill who wrote a wonderful book in 1937. No one has all the answers, remember, there are no absolutes, right LRH???
- 8. Do you think the Church of Scientology needs to change some
of its practices? If so, what should be changed? How did those
practices affect your life?
- They need to decide to call themselves a cult and let the public know that they are not standardly applying LRH's policy, it has been broadly changed to the benefit of the management and the lawyers of the church. The church of scientology is owned by lawyers and business men in California and the owners of the church are called the Church of Spiritual Technology. This information is available on Scientologyintegrity.org on the internet.
Essentially, this church is not really a church since it has no god or prayer. It should just be called a philosophy and it should be honest with its public and not commit overts by deceptive trade practices, fraud and other illegal acts.
- 9. If the items you listed in the previous question were
changed, would you consider rejoining or staying in the Church of
Scientology? If so, why?
- I would never join the church of scientology regardless of what they changed. There are too many wonderful groups outside this cult who offer far more in spiritual, philosophical and any other betterment you could ever want.
- 10. Any additional comments you would like to make?
- Be weary of the web they weave. If you want to get good auditing and other spiritual growth go to the Ron's Org and get real care and help.